I think even people who want to stay in should vote to leave.
Cameron's ridiculous attempts to secure us a new deal with the EU was undermined by their belief we would never leave.
If we vote out then Germany & France will come begging us to reconsider and let us set the terms. Then he can have another vote based upon the revised membership we could secure - no free passage to UK, no silly subsidies and all that stuff.
I'm for out anyway - plus it's been ages since we had a decent apocalypse and it will be amusing to see zombies on the streets of Rotherham and maybe even bananas with different angles of curvature being as weapons by them etc.
I think even people who want to stay in should vote to leave. Cameron's ridiculous attempts to secure us a new deal with the EU was undermined by their belief we would never leave. If we vote out then Germany & France will come begging us to reconsider and let us set the terms. Then he can have another vote based upon the revised membership we could secure - no free passage to UK, no silly subsidies and all that stuff. I'm for out anyway - plus it's been ages since we had a decent apocalypse and it will be amusing to see zombies on the streets of Rotherham and maybe even bananas with different angles of curvature being as weapons by them etc.
lol.
All good points.
Pretty much all you need to know about the yes vote and its authenticity
I'm fed up of the lies and scare tactics from both camps.
From a 3rd world war starting if we leave to £350 million a week being spent.
The EU will have no bearing on a world war.
£350 million goes out but about £200 million comes back so actually it's £150 million.
Give us facts not fiction and facts without spin.
Have you noticed that every figure the stay campaign comes out with is not rounded up - £5,200 etc - not just £5,000. This is to try and make you believe that it is actually calculated. It's a figure based on if Chelsea win the 2018 LDV trophy at the Millennium Stadium in front of 26,000. It could happen but won't.
I'm still not keen about some faceless Brussels Bureaucrats ruling the roost in the UK.
If we vote to stay in the EU our lives will not be worth a farthing.
I don't believe all the lies, damn lies and statistics being spouted by any of the Remain or Leave campaigners.
Look at the pain and suffering which our fathers and forefathers experienced to gain our Freedom during both World Wars.
People will say. 'It's a different World now.'
No, it isn't. The Continentals have always wanted to run our Country in one form or another
So, we give up our Freedom and our Sovereignty by putting a cross on a slip of paper and vote 'Remain'?
I'm not signing away the Freedom which others so valiantly fought for over 70 years ago.
I'm sure I'll rue the day if I vote to stay.
1. I don't really think Brussels rules our roost, and to be honest, as a working man, whoever 'rules' isn't doing it for me, whatever their nationality.
2. I don't believe the lies either.
3. The pain that all our forefathers went through in various wars isn't relevant to be honest, is it?
4. The continentals want to run our country?, that could've come straight out of Boris the doris's gob mate!!!
Who do you think you are kidding Mrs Merkel,
If you think we're on the run,
We are the boys who will stop your little game,
We are the boys who will make you think again,
Cos who do you think you are kidding Mrs Merkel
If you think old England's done
Merkel has been an utter disaster for Germany and Europe. What would one expect from an east communist feminist libtard!
We absolutely need cross pollination of cultures and cooperation but what the world does not need is cultural genocide.
I've been listening to a lot of Bertrand Russel and what is striking is how very quickly culture changes . At present rate Europe will be unrecognisable in 100 years. And I mean unrecognisable.
We have so much to protect in terms of true liberalism, common sense, genuine historical ties to be proud off, innovation, scientific and engineering pioneer 's and expertise. ..
The political elite have always taken what they want from others more able and exploited cultures and destroyed lives . The tactics have always been the same : tell them what to believe and say and punish them if they don't comply by violence and ridicule.
If I'm honest then I think it's inevitable and the way of things. Nothing more than a revolution on a scale of a civil war will make a difference and that is not desirable to the masses. History rools on and I'm genuinely somewhat concerned about the polarisation that is on the brink of exploding.
I think the European free movement experiment has been a disaster. Just a load of economic migrants and people coming here for higher wages and our better benefits, NHS, Education and way of life. People fleeing war zones are shelling out their life savings to be transported over a dozen countries to get here - surely, all European countries are just as safe?
We don't need integration and the importation of other cultures; as a devout atheist I have zero problem with Christmas as a concept; an event recently labelled as Winterfest in one UK area to prevent giving offence. That's what cultural importation and "tolerance" gets you.
I am a remain voter. I feel very strongly that remain was the right choice for many reasons. Setting that aside, I think that whatever the result is there are worrying trends indeed. In his excitement tonight Farage talks boldy about immigrants stopping British nationals getting jobs and getting houses. It plays on base fear and prejudice. Echoes of darker times. The politics of hate where those who feel disconnected from traditional politics are subtly and consistently encouraged to turn on and blame vulnerable minorities. It ignores fact and appeals to anger and frustration. There are decent arguments on both sides of the EU referendum and I can live with the outcome of it one way or the other, but the nasty undertone that has gained some traction is deeply troubling and will rumble on whatever the referendum outcome is.
-- Edited by smiler on Friday 24th of June 2016 12:31:11 AM