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Rotherham players receive letters from club asking them to go on Government's furlough scheme | Daily Mail Online

 

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It is from that bastion of truth known as the Daily Mail so.......



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No wonder so many players are wanting out.

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I told you that losing our championship status would hit us hard, that drop in revenue. So when we were all slagged off for saying we had must win games, looks like they really were. Also stated that warne was a low cost option that is why we are sticking with him. We won't be the only club by the way and when they new lockdowns start later this year and into 2022 we will see how football copes.



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Let's wait for the dust to settle before making a judgement.

We were a Championship club that was budgeted for surviving albeit at our level , but still budgeted.

We lost millions of revenue in the season and millions more by being relegated. None of this is the boards fault.

Looks like we were hit with the perfect storm...remembering also that TS would have lost millions in his business and at RUFC.





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Furloughing is potentially a means of the club saving money without the players losing income. Setting aside the morality of it and the potential impact of bad publicity (there are reasonable discussions to be had on both counts), if that can legitimately be done for a short period of time over the summer during which the players are inactive anyway, it kind of makes sense. In fact you could argue that from a business perspective it would be remiss not to at least look at it. Over a month it would potentially save the club somewhere between £50,000 and £100,000. Lots of clubs are doing it, including for example Coventry who of course stayed up. Lots of Premier League clubs have furloughed staff or taken loans. Reportedly clubs in the top two divisions have taken over £13m in furlough support payments to date. This suggestion by the club is not necessarily a consequence of relegation. Nor is legitimately taking advantage of financial support schemes to save money necessarily the same thing as being in financial difficulty. Other indicators in our case suggest that we are fairly sound, whereas at SWFC for example there is a pattern of other behaviours that spell trouble when you put the pieces together. I think it's a bit of a non-story to be honest.



-- Edited by smiler on Sunday 13th of June 2021 04:23:08 PM

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1 - No season ticket monies as of the 1st June (normal 1st payment date if paying by DD)

2 - No date set for start of return of fans to stadiums for league matches, June 21st date looks to have been put back another 4 weeks.

If something is not sorted out soon, then the EFL will see a lot teams go to the wall and a lot of players without clubs

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Tony Stewart has stated that the business is only following a course of action it is entitled to. The furlough scheme covers 80% of an employees salary up to a maximum of £2.5K per month. The players have agreed to this and financially will be no worse off. He also went on to say that the club had took a £5m hit from dropping out of the championship. The deficit could be as high as £6m with lost matchday revenue. He also said what i have quoted many times that the matchday revenues has little impact in overall spending power. Rotherham would be better off playing in front of no crowds in the championship than crowds in league one. It is the t.v money and premier back up money that is the main driver of finances.

I think we will be pulling in the purse strings this season, with players on a maximum £3.5k a week and looking to get some money from transfer sales. I expect little or no money to be splashed on incoming transfers. I think we will do well to finish in the top six with the restraints that we will be under. Other clubs in this league (bigger ones) are still on a boom or bust strategy with big wages allegedly being offered to some players. It could well end in tears for some but we appear to be on a sound footing and not acting irresponsibly. I will support that strategy all day long.

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Agreed Whiston. Some of that shortfall will be made up in wage drops built into contracts (I think TS mentioned a 25% reduction in the player wage bill). Historically a player sale or two has helped bridge the gap and that will likely happen again. I dont think there is a correlation between higher revenue and profitability. Let's face it, to really compete in the Championship year on year we would have to increase spending on transfer fees and wages in a big way. Is there a club safe in the Championship that actually makes a profit or breaks even once parachute payments are allowed for? I doubt it. On the furlough, I think it's a non-story but I also agree with Worcester that finances in football generally must be getting squeezed. How clubs in League One can justify paying £10k a week is beyond me I fear that some clubs will fail. I have got a reasonable amount of confidence that we wont be one of them.

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Things are starting to happen with the kit launch (nice) & a very tasty looking friendly with Newcastle announced.

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WorcesterMiller wrote:

1 - No season ticket monies as of the 1st June (normal 1st payment date if paying by DD)

2 - No date set for start of return of fans to stadiums for league matches, June 21st date looks to have been put back another 4 weeks.

If something is not sorted out soon, then the EFL will see a lot teams go to the wall and a lot of players without clubs


 It's very concerning.

Clubs really can't put any plans in action regarding ticket sales . The government putting back full easing also suggests they could delay it further considering another infection spike. 

It could be another iplayer start to the season. 

 

On the plus side three is work being done to look at risk of opening big venues Vs infection and mortality/morbidity. That suggests the government is positioning itself to hide behind reasonable damages Vs the economy 



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Government policy is consistent lockdowns, there will always be a new form of an existing virus, that is how viruses work they evolve, so if you have a government that operates it's policies based on "variants" and the mathematical models that have been wrong constantly and the same team got their models wrong for all previous medical outbreaks the only outcome is a society with constant restrictions and removal of freedoms, the opposition are worse than the government they want more lockdowns, the country is run by SAGE an unelected group of technocrats that personally are making fortunes from all of this Vallance alone has benefited by nearly £5m from his shares in Pharmas, if you think vaccines are the answer a constant stream of drugs and chemicals that don't provide you the protection you think that make your Doctor £10,000s in vaccine bonuses each year, then you have not been watching. This is a huge corruption of our society by NGO's and Pharma (I spent 5 years working in Pharma and clinical trials) it is all about money and control, next will be the Climate Change lockdowns, late 2022 into 2023 all aiming to the WEF 2030 agenda of a new society, started this year with a new global tax (that global corporations will avoid), already announced. The UN and WEF agendas are all published do***ents that you can get access to and read, as is the Rockefeller Foundation 2010 do***ent about the future plans, this is not made up it is happening and you can continue to be fed the crap from the BBC, Sky and your newspapers thinking "just another 4 weeks" or you can open your eyes, do some research, look at the independent journalism that is available, read a broad collection of material, then make up your mind, it is up to you what you want to believe, I wish you all well and I hope that we are not one of the clubs that goes under in the next 3 to 5 years.

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Absolutely spot on derby. Even more so Big Pharma runs the business world and its employees have managed to turn this nation for one into a brainwashed frightened population which the woke brigade have exploited with the help of the pathetic mainstream media. We now only listen to the commonsense Talk Radio and hopefully GB News will develop as aTV station in the same vein.Make no mistake football will suffer badly if these lockdowns continue. I know several season ticket holders who are too scared to renew,if we ever get back to where we were.

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Great post derby nice to know theres others out there who thinks the same way on this issue. I'm more afraid of 'The Jab' than the Covid 19 virus itself, but by not having it I run the risk of becoming an outcast. Mrs C has had both jabs and been quite ill on both occasions. She didn't want it but was more afraid of what others would say if she didn't comply. I'm 70 and in the 'at risk' group but I took several at risk surveys on line, taking in account of age, gender, fitness, and general standard of health, which is excellent as I've taken care of myself over the years, and the chances of me catching the disease and dying from it, well I stand more chance of winning the lottery and infinitely more than Rotherham ever getting into the Prem.

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Calypso - does it not worry you that entry to NYS might require proof of a double-jab for the forthcoming season? I'm jabbed up and confident that vaccinations are our passport out of this mess we're in. If it gets me into NYS as well, that's an added bonus!

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I am a big believer in informed consent I have nothing against people choosing or not choosing to take part in a clinical trail, what is sad is the disinformation that the corporate media are pushing, it is hard for people to have informed consent if only one side of a story is told. The inventor of the mRNA technology has written to the FDA (months ago) to raise severe concerns about the ethics of these clinical trails and the lack of transparency on the side effects (which include death), if such a person is concerned we should all be concerned, ethics in clinical trials are not optional, they are not a nice to have they are fundamental to the protection of all the people involved, they are also the LAW. His name is Dr. Robert Malone, I am not going to post links to the material because I do not want to be accused of pushing my beliefs on others, you are all capable of finding the material yourselves, just look further than twitter, facebook, google and the BBC. The big area that a lot of scientists and medical experts are concerned with is the spike protein and the fact is getting into our blood and organs, they cannot control where it goes. All I ask is do your research, make your own mind up and do not turn on others that have a different view, do not let them divide us respect your fellow humans and remember the elite do not care about you, and neither does your government. All the best to all the millers and their families



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