It would seem that all of us agree that Warne should stay until the fat lady sings, it will then depend on where we are to determine what should happen with the management team. My personal view is that as GlennMiller has stated, we have not been seriously overrun except for three or four matches, so the team have performed well up to their capabilities this season. The nub of the problem is our budget, and the lack of skilful players that brings with it. Either we have to find a rare diamond in the cast offs and lower league teams, or have unprecedented amounts of good luck to survive in the championship. Although we have had some good luck this season, I feel we have had more bad luck than good. As far as unearthing decent players goes, we seem to find one or two on loan, but those with obvious ability are immediately snapped up by other teams who can offer better terms than we can.
It is not an easy situation, and I can see good points made on both sides of the argument, for my part I still remember managers who stayed with clubs for years, sometimes having a bad season, sometimes better, and sometimes an excellent one. However, the current results driven business doesn't give anybody stability, and just creates a large manager-go-round, where the usual luck applies, if you can settle the squad and get results and confidence going, you're the best thing since sliced bread, otherwise you're a failure. Even the succesful managers turn out to be failures the following season
Who'd be a football manager. The stress levels must be sky high......
In regards the loans i agree
Blackwell no thankyou
Wing i think has done ok and his unsure on his future
Giles knows he has a future at wolves
Josefoon and hirst not been given the run of matches and game.time compared to some
playersetc if the latter know warne wont drop them and the former know he wont start them why give the extra.
Man management is key and warne seems to unwant to play go.on loan because i have my starting 11 and wont change.
If mattock was fit no one would get a look in at left back.
I'm hoping PW doesn't look at this site or else his stress levels would be sky high. Not so much dissertations from a few contributors as submissions from the prosecution!!
I'm sure if we'd taken a point from both the Millwall and Wycombe games some people would still have been waiting for our next defeat and then clamour for PW to be pushed out of the door. PW has been a great servant to RUFC. If I had my way I would keep him on at the Aeseal NYS as General Manager. Remember when Phil Henson went through a sticky patch as Manager? (Did you see what I did there?) Did we push Phil Henson out of the door? No! He was given the General Manager's job down at Millmoor. Wonder if TS looks at this site?
Being a supporter of our football club who feels that Paul Warne should have moved aside and given someone else a chance to save us from relegation. It is now too late to effect this season so I wish him well and hope for the best.
I missed Ben Wiles out. I think he has a bright future in the game. We have used him as a cover all player which imo will not have helped his development. I think he will make a good attacking, box to box type midfield player but could possibly develop into a right wing back.He has a bright future.
I think i might have been attacked about my assessment of Robertson (it was a bit of a cryptic post so apologies if i am wrong). I based my assessment on him being 27 yrs old. He has had three seasons with us and only played 58 games (definitely injury prone). He has only played 41 games in the championship in his career and some of those out of position. He has also performed well at times in his favoured left central role of a back four. He is a solid defender but is prone to being turned by a quick attacker. Those quick attackers are much more prevalent in the championship and that is why i believe he is better equipped for division one. However, he does a job in the championship and would be fine in our squad if we stayed up. He would be a star defender if we went down providing he plays enough. I am certainly not advocating getting shut unless a good offer came in. No slagging off just my honest assessment of him.
The more I think about our situation and look at the table and the fixtures, the more I think the season will come down to the Tuesday/Thursday/Sunday games after the Hudders game.
If I was TS, I'd have a new manager ready to come in NOW, and throw the dice to get a new man to try and get at least 6 points from those 3 games.
I've always seen Huddersfield as a bogey team at their ground, so I expect nothing from that game.
I'm sure TS won't change it though - and obviously hope Warney can find a formation and set of players that does the trick. As we have already said - surely we must go back to 3-5-1-1... with Olosunde and Harding back in position...
My heart and head are both saying we are going down - but can I please please please be wrong!!
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I may have missed something here but I think most agree that the loan signings have at best been below average, yet we let one of our own (Jerry Yates ) go and from reports he's playing well all be it in the 1st division, but the players we've taken on loan are at the moment not championship standard, am I wrong in thinking we would have been better off working on our own players than helping other clubs out.
If we are going to carry on using loan signings and have no faith in our own players what's the point of the accedemy,also we need a better recruitment team as this lot keep coming up short to often.
There is a lot of frustration that has come through on this thread, which is understandable. The Wycombe game was a disaster. Taking a step back, we haven't had many days like that this season (Coventry away was awful - I am struggling to think of many if any more). It just came at exactly the wrong time.
Honestly, if at the start of the season anyone had shown me the table as it is now and said that is where we would be with ten to play I think I would have taken it. We still have a very realistic chance of staying up.
I don't think that raking over old ground is particularly helpful at this stage. Nor is anyone better placed than Warne to have a go at the remaining games. We made some schoolboy errors on Monday, including three in five seconds for the first goal (awful defensive header, Wiles not covering round and a terrible starting position from Victor) but the players never stopped trying. If anything they were too desperate to win.
The season is likely to turn on results in the next ten days. We really have to get seven points minimum from the next four games, and have to beat one of and possibly both of Coventry and Birmingham. It will be no good beating Huddersfield and QPR and then losing to Coventry and Birmingham.
The proper thing to do - whether we stay up or go down - would be for Tony Stewart, hopefully with some input from someone who knows a lot about the game (which he admits he doesn't), to take stock of things. That is the right time to dissect what we did well and what we got wrong. Warne is honest enough to ask himself some serious questions and I am sure he would appraise his own position. They would, I am sure, have some serious conversations and decide on the best course for the club. At least, that is what I would like to think would happen.
-- Edited by smiler on Friday 9th of April 2021 07:27:02 AM
I'm hoping PW doesn't look at this site or else his stress levels would be sky high. Not so much dissertations from a few contributors as submissions from the prosecution!! I'm sure if we'd taken a point from both the Millwall and Wycombe games some people would still have been waiting for our next defeat and then clamour for PW to be pushed out of the door. PW has been a great servant to RUFC. If I had my way I would keep him on at the Aeseal NYS as General Manager. Remember when Phil Henson went through a sticky patch as Manager? (Did you see what I did there?) Did we push Phil Henson out of the door? No! He was given the General Manager's job down at Millmoor. Wonder if TS looks at this site?
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We don't need any journeyman managers down at the Aeseal NYS. Not on your nelly! No, thank you! For what it's worth, PW gets my vote to stay.
We have the second lowest budget in the league and we don't have the deepest of squads. It is tough for us to be competitive at the best of times. In fact, we have had to play 7 games in 19 days. Predictably with that schedule we have picked up the odd injury. In a couple of games we havent played well. In others we have been a bit unlucky. In two of them we were victims of a couple of the worst refereeing decisions you are ever likely to see. I think it is difficult to overstate just how challenging this period has been physically, mentally and in terms of preparation for all involved. We havent picked up as many points as we needed. That is disappointing. But it has been an extraordinary set of cir***stances. Maybe we can each look at it and say Warne should have picked him more or not played him, or that Ladapo should have buried an open goal chance etc etc, but actually my overriding feeling (beyond frustration that this is how it has panned out) is pride in how we have gone about it and how much everyone concerned has given 100% for the cause, which really is all I ever feel entitled to demand. I think it is very harsh to review that period and seek to apportion blame here or there, whether it be with particular players or the management team. Very harsh indeed.
