Absolutely nothing will change with the current structure in place, the idiocy of our laughingly called recruitment team needs dismantling, this lot need a kick up the arse rather than a cuddle, today was embarrassing.
Either way it will be a complete rebuild.in summer
I can see smith crookes olosonde clarke ikky maybe ladapo offers coming and been sold
And maybe new man at helm if warne goes
But investment needed
with wednesday winning 5-0 and now just 2 goals behind us and same points, realistically they are 6 points above us. there is a real chance we will come bottom now, I think we have enough to get to 42 points so we may go down 2nd to bottom.
I said I would not post again but following yesterday’s debacle I feel the need to rid some of my frustration.
I have been, and still am, an admirer of the integrity Paul Warne has brought to our club. We are now respected throughout the football league. A man with such beliefs should now be asking himself whether he can save this club from the humiliation of another relegation. In my opinion he should step aside and give someone else the chance to have a go at trying at least to Save some credibility.
Give Richard Wood the 10 games to see if he can unite the players and give it a real go. There is no “man management”required, no tactical genius required, just will you run through a brick wall for me. If not, goodbye.
Play players in their correct positions. No tinkering. Clarke, Giles or Robertson at leftback. If their not good enough so be it but keep the balance. Stop killing the career of Ben Wiles and play him in midfield alongside Jamie Lindsay and Dan Barlaser.
Too many times we play players out of position. I dread substitutions because the team just gets worse. We have far to many players who are just not good enough or are not up for a fight. I don’t care how many goals you score or whether there worldies or against our rivals if you are not up for a fight,goodbye.
I could rant on but Millwall and yesterday were totally unacceptable. Something needs to be done. I do not want to go down without a fight and in my view with the present management that as gone
Still got ten games left to play, five at home and five away. Think we can win at least one or two of those games big style and restore our faith in the club. Think it's too early to be talking about shaking up the coaching and playing staff.
Same fan base as Brentford might be correct. However, in 2017 it was reported that their chairman had now invested over £101m in the football club. Who knows how much more he has put in or is prepared to put in.
It is my best guess that mot many have watched the millers train or know how many players are up for the fight. I have seen the millers train a few times in 2018/19 and the only two players i would say were sulking or not buying in to what the management team were doing were Fisher (looked a moody character) and at times J.C.H. I will defend J.C.H by saying when Barker instructed him in a firm manner he responded well. I think it was more out of frustration than character. What i saw were a set of players that would bust a gut for the management and i believe the current players will do the same. Whether they are good enough is another matter.
Somebody has said there will be offers for Clarke. As a kid i remember the rag and bone man coming round and you either got a trumpet or a balloon. No disrespect to Clarke who is trying his best but i don't think you would get the trumpet, just a blow of the ragmans trumpet.
The belief that a kick up the arse will bring results is buried somewhere in Gwrus manual of management. Warne and his team have built up a great team spirit and they will come back and give it their best. Still a long way to go, but still the same set of skills available. The best will be got out of them but as i have said before i think we will fall just short. Give Warne and his team the chance to keep us up. If or when he fails then i believe that would be the time to have a look elsewhere. To put a rookie like Wood in charge now would be ridiculous and i also believe Wilder has much bigger clubs in his sights.
I'd let him go now and persuade Chris Wilder to take a short term contract to the end of the season.
I like that idea....
I like Warne, we've had some great seasons - but failing to get the players in the right mindset and formation for games like yesterday means I woudl rather risk a new man to try and keep us up...
We had a winning formula with Crooks playing behind Smith with 5 in midfield , which he abandoned - plus leaving Sadlier on the bench and keeping the faith with Hirst as a sub is just wrong...
The primary aim is what is the best interest of the club now. We can go out of this division with a whimper or we can put up a fight. I,unfortunately cannot see us achieving the latter with the present management team. If change is seen as being a bad thing so be it. I like Paul Warne and wish him well but this cannot continue. We are constantly play players out of position and ones (who on the evidence of the television coverage) are not up for the fight. What we have done to Ben Wiles is appalling.
I am not suggesting that a rookie should be the new manager but I am saying we need new voices to organise and inspire performances. We need players on the pitch who want to play and compete. The suggestion that they try and compete in training is good but you do not get any points for that.
My team when I said players were on holiday I meant for the rest of the season. Those 3 loan players are by far some of the worst players we have had.
I am normally very positive but what I am seeing at the moment is totally unacceptable.
I don't want him to leave now and get away without the relegation on his CV, 3 relegations out of 3 attempts to manage at this level, nice bloke but he is not a winner. We were lucky last year, we were not playing well and the season ended, two more games and we would have not been promoted automatically, the club has backed him with letting him bring in the players he wanted, there is no evidence that they haven't. He looks like a bloke with no clue what he is doing when the team arent at the races. In his interview yesterday he admitted his half time subs didn't work, he admitted his original formation didnt work, even Smiler said that they didn't look mentally up for it. So that is 3 jobs he has to do in a crucial game and he fails in them all. He then says we have 10 cup finals, no s**t sherlock we had 11 cup finals an you lost the first one in the worst possible way. The worst for me is we had a winning formula and he has just abandoned it, what a Muppet, bringing Hirst on and not sadlier is criminal, if there was a football court that deals with insane decisions he would be up on charges most of the season for his substitutions. Yesterday was a shambles and it will take a lot to go and get 3 points at Huddersfield for us to still be in with a chance
Not sure why a Rotherham fan would want to be so nasty towards a manger who has given so much to our club. 'I don't want him to get away without the relegation on his C.V'. 'Two more games and we would not have been promoted automatically'. Not only vindictive but has the ability to predict with a crystal ball i presume.
Well for a start Rotherhams last eight games in that season we did get automatic promotion,was, won 4 drew 3 and lost one. Of course everybody remembers the last game where we were poor and thinks that would have been repeated. Forget the previous 30+. Do you really think we got the players we wanted. We got the players we could afford and my guess like yours is they were well down the list of Warnes wanted players. Warne and his team have them up for the games don't worry about that and they are as well prepared as any team. Listen to past players and they are full of praise for what they do. The one thing i agree with you 'Derby' is the abandonment of the Crookes/ Smith combination. Crookes looks ordinary in a midfield set up but looks threatening in a more forward position. What about Sadlier ? Please tell me when he has had any influence on a game this season. I am more disappointed than most because i thought he looked a good signing. Hirst, not god enough and only plays bit parts. Yesterday was poor and we never got the ball moving quick enough to put them under a lot of pressure. We had chances but when Barlaser went off the delivery at set pieces also went. We go to Huddersfield, who are a club who has had parachute money from the premier recently so it should be easy to whack them.. Aye O.K. I will bet my last penny that Warne and his team are trying everything in their power to give us our best shot. Lets hope we lose and then he is well on his way to getting another relegation on his C.V. Barmy talk.
Whiston stop with the being nasty crap. If you think that is nasty god help you. How is it nasty to Warne to say we were lucky last year, look at the way it was calculated it was by the skin of our teeth we went up, we were playing poorly compared to teams around us, do you honestly think that we would have come 2nd last season if all the games would have been played? If so ok, but i do not, that is not nasty to Warne it is a observation based on how we were playing at the time and how others were playing also, your comment on the results at the time is a fair one, i am talking about the way we were playing
If you think it is nasty to say I want his record to accurately record his achievements this season on his managerial record then i am being nasty. I would also like it to record that we won 7 out of the last 10 games and stayed up, that would make me very happy, but can you really see that happening? If he leaves now his CV will not be a true reflection of his record in the Championship, all I am saying is I think it should be, whatever the outcome.
I have never questioned his service to the club, but he has gone as far as he can. We got 42 points last time, if he gets 43 or more then he has improved slightly (it would be an enormous failure if we do not get to 43 points) and that has to be something, but relegation is relegation.
You say that Warne will have the players up for the game, did he have them up for the game at QPR, Coventry or the string of home games where we have lost. As the team said yesterday, you get relegated at home and promoted away, and there is little reason to think we will win more than a couple of the remaining home games.
Regarding sadlier, Birmingham away was one game before his injury, he was excellent that day. You make the point about taking off barlasar for set pieces then criticise me for saying that another good set piece man should have been brought on ahead of Hirst, and Ogbene is not fit and should never have come on at half time that was an awful decision and Warne himself says it was a failed decision.
Regarding the players brought in, yes i do think he got what he wanted, TS has stated numerous times they have NEVER not backed Warne are you saying TS is a liar? has Warne ever complained about the support from the club? Yes we operate on a budget but that is well known in advance, Warne has been backed to the best of the boards ability, unless you can provide evidence to the contrary.
Now stop thinking that everyone that has a go at Warne is making it personal, I have nothing against him as a person because I do not know him, he has been a good servant to the club. I judge him on what I see him do at Championship level as a manager THREE times, he is not good enough at this level. lastly I hope I have to eat my words, i want this club to stay up this season i want us to win those games and i want Warne to be successful, which means he has to be given all 10 games to try and achieve that. If we go down, i think we need new blood that is my point.
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