I woke up last night early hours and spent over an hour fretting at our plight. You might rightly say if that's all I have to worry about I'm doing well, but for me, I'm Millers through and through and hate it when we throw away golden opportunities, again.
I think our main issues are because of the number of 'outs' in January and lack of 'ins'.
What we had left is good enough to give us a fighting chance, as we showed in January.. but ONLY if our small squad stays fit, and we already knew we had a hard fixture list in terms of number of games each week, so for me we have let ourselves down in January recruitment.
It's easy with hindsight, but lots of us on here were saying we needed to add a proper left back (not a wing back) and a Centre back and a Striker.
I also think letting both Vassell and Morris go, without adding another out and out striker was another mistake. Whatever you thought of those two, they could certainly put the ball in the net given the chances Freddie has missed, and would give us an option in games we no longer have.
... and at the back we don't really have a defence just now, with Woody injured and Icky suspended, plus as we have said all season, no left back.
So, for me we will go down because our squad is too small - and injuries will in the end mean we can't cope with the fixture numbers and get enough points.
I for one have lost all confidence in us staying up, sadly.
Sorry that's so negative, but Obviously, I want to be totally wrong!!!
PW had seven substitutes to call upon yesterday all of who you’d label first teamers. This is the biggest squad I can remember us operating with at any level.
How many more players do we suggest carrying and where is the budget coming from to pay even more players to sit in the stand or on the bench?
We probably operate as a mid table league one outfit and the chairman,who seems not to have any intention of investing what could be argued to be the appropriate finance for Championship level,has to accept some responsibility for possible impending failure. When we have lost to the Owls,and bad as they are we surely will,the knives will be out,and not just for Warne and his serial relegation expert buddy Barker.This situation was oh so predictable yet disappointingly so preventable with proper quality recruitment both pre season and in January. Desperate times ahead i fear.
-- Edited by splinter on Sunday 28th of February 2021 04:51:58 PM
-- Edited by splinter on Sunday 28th of February 2021 05:01:24 PM
Knives will be out
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Score goals. Pass
Affordable. Pass
Warne criteria fail
PW had seven substitutes to call upon yesterday all of who you’d label first teamers. This is the biggest squad I can remember us operating with at any level.
How many more players do we suggest carrying and where is the budget coming from to pay even more players to sit in the stand or on the bench?
Yes C I think it is... not in Midfield ( I include wing backs and wingers in this), or in Goal, but in attack and defence we are short. I'm not saying we need loads more - just that we have not replaced those that have gone.
I forgot to menttion Tilt going - we could do with him right now (or someone else) at Centre Half.
Two strikers is not enough. ( I don't count Hirst - Like most I hoped he'd be a good signing- but sadly my dog is a better footballer )
So I'd firmly argue Yes, our current squad is too small...
I'm hoping we find the small miracle we need somehow, but it's just hope.
Can't see where the next win is coming from onto the pigsty. Seen it is on sky better to move it to one of the film channels where the horror section is.
The squad is short on quality that much is obvious.
The management may also bear some weight as looking at the issues with injuries and players let go without decent replacement it now looks very short-sighted .
Lastly, we don't have enough dosh.
However, we don't know the truth of any of the above.
I'm thinking for example of the plight of Bolton, Ipswich and Sunderland to name just 3 of many.
All big enough clubs by a long way to be very comfortable in the championship but all went through a managerial and ownership and player recruitment merry-go-round and ended up still going round on it.
Sometimes it might just be a host of factors that transpire...
It might just be we are doing absolutely as good as can be expected...maybe.
After this covid season is over there is going to be a massive hangover financially for a lot of clubs. Just my opinion Tony Stewart will keep the ship afloat if you are a millers fan just back them when season tickets come out. As soon as they are out I will get mine UTM.
I will get my ticket, but no more public aspirations tony. You dont spend the money to meet those aspirations.
Im not getting criticise how he runs club. But we came up again with 1 player bought in barlaser.
He was red hot last season in league 1
We are a club of league 1 players
I will get my ticket, but no more public aspirations tony. You dont spend the money to meet those aspirations.
Im not getting criticise how he runs club. But we came up again with 1 player bought in barlaser.
He was red hot last season in league 1
We are a club of league 1 and 2 players.
The manager let players go out on loan because he couldnt manage them.
He could have kept.tilt as we knew with injuries amd suspension out defence resource was limited
Tony needs to hit the reset button new ideas needed
There has been some very poor recruitment this season who takes the blame. I hope we can go on a little run and get a few wins this month where they are coming from no idea. Getting very depressing and repetitive good job there is no crowd at the moment they would make their views known. If this continues there will have to be that long talk with uncle Tony.
Same with Joey Barton we've missed the boat again Darren Moore he's got the Sheff W job. Can't see us getting anything at Hillsborough now. Warney still needs to go. Be two lost seasons. Need fresh ideas.
Just under fifty years ago i saw the 'Crazy world of Arthur Brown' in Clifton Park. Now i can look on this site and see The Crazy World of Millers Banters. TH and Gwru are fully paid up members but are at least consistent in what they say and seem to love to kick the manager of our club. T.H is saying he cannot see where the next win is coming from. He said the same in early January. He also thinks getting a season ticket will help to ease our financial problems. I am not going over that again but it is a bit like a couple saying to their kids, i am going to smash your piggy bank and take the £2 to pay for the £900 a month mortgage.... Gwru, thinks Lamy , Cooper and Kayode would have kept us up. The problem is one cannot get a game with the bottom club in the football league and the other two have never kicked a ball in the championship.... Hillsborough Miller, an original wise man, believes T.S doesn't spend money to meet those aspirations and Warne has let players go out on loan he couldn't manage. I would love to know how he knows those two statements are actual facts. My best guess is they are well wide of the mark.... One poster said the second promotion was down to statistics and we were on a bad run. That bad run was sure to have continued and we would have finished mid table i suppose. Aye o.k. The final positions were taken on what had gone in over 70% of the season. We got promoted, get over it. It might have been better to congratulate the players and management, but that is not the style on here. The same poster did say the players and management need a lot of credit after the win at Preston on the 5th Feb. So less than four weeks later the knives are out and people are returning to usual and all the bile that goes with it.
I have said from the beginning of the season that to keep us up would take a monumental effort. I still believe that and fear we will fall a fair way short. Our best eleven is just about good enough to keep us up. When you lose Ogbene, Mattock(yes him), Lindsay and Robertson for big parts of the season we are going to face a near impossible task. Players like wiles, Olosunde, Barlaser and Wood looked in desperate need of rest in the last few weeks. The players that replace them are not good enough and without those injuries would have played at best minimal parts. You could argue that recruitment has not been good and has left us short. However, when you look at our budget of around £92K a week( estimate on past and current squad) , you can only recruit of a certain type. Compare that budget to the estimates of Barnsley 143K, Wednesday 380K, Luton 131K, Forest 442k, Huddersfield 277K and the list goes on. I think it is fair to say we have an uphill task to compete. I am sure the club is doing everything and do not deserve the attacks some on here love to give out. Don' worry my posts will be very rare on here. I just felt i had to put up another view.
Owls have just made Darren Moore their new manager I rate him just made our job on Wednesday night a little bit harder. Good post whiston I do hope if I keep saying where will the next win come from leads to a few wins.
whiston01 good post. I know us & Wycombe who show alot more fight in games than us both are the poor relations of the championship. What gets me is how dull it's become watching Warney's Roth U. Lindsay when fit at least battled for us. Loan signings have not added anything to the side incl' Wing & Giles. Coventry weren't playing Giles in the end got to be a reason cause we know Mark Robins is a good manager. Can't see us getting anything next 2 games. If it's 7 consecutive defeats surely that's the end of the road for Warney. We did get up last season by default but we haven't built on that good fortune. Nothing else to say. Can't think of anything positive.
Excellent post Whiston. Looking at the anger aimed at both manager and (incredibly) the chairman across the various message boards shows how emotive football is.
I’m a fellow realist who expected a struggle, hoped to scrape survival and thinks either could happen.
Before the season almost everyone says they’ll be happy with 4th bottom. Prior to the club catching covid we had not been in the bottom 4. Since then we have been in and out of the bottom 3 due to those games in hand (and due to Forest and Derby transforming their fortunes).
This weekend is the first time i would say we are in the bottom 3 on merit, as a point a game from the games in hand isnt enough to catch Birmingham.
With a kind fixture list to come (once we get the inevitible defeats to Brentford and Watford out of the way) its in our own hands.
Hand on heart i think we’ll go down as the 2 games a week are too much for a team with one of the 5 highest running games in Europe, as we’re told. And because everyone else pulls out that occasional shock result (hudders 4-swans1) that seems beyond us.
But i think we’ve gone about things the right way, the only way we could while keeping the finances intact, and i remain behind the manager and chairman whatever happens.
Incidentally the Norwich that are top of the league are the team who were out of their depth in the league above and stuck by their man to take them back there.
