This is a really good thread apart from our very own virus which intermittently infects it!
I like the thought of Miller sitting just behind Smith. Of all our players, he has the best skill level in terms of beating a player and when he runs at defenders they don't look comfortable. If we fail to get the requisite pacey forward in the Jan window, it's worth giving it a shot.
You may call me the variant miller 70% faster than anyone on this site. While you lot are contemplating your navels looks as if Robertson could be back in January how long will he last?.
You may call me the variant miller 70% faster than anyone on this site. While you lot are contemplating your navels looks as if Robertson could be back in January how long will he last?.
Again, totally incomprehensible. In what way do you think that are you '70% faster than anyone on this site'? I take it that you, just like your brother, spend their days trawling Twitter, due to boredom and lack of any sort of stimulation in your life.
Pick a guitar, any guitar. Picture from last evening. Playing quality guitars and making music stimulates me. How much do you think that these three guitars cost? Each are professional instruments.
Flo & Miller are you havin a laugh! Not strong enough. Been tried out wide same there.
Gwru, you keep saying that these two are not strong enough. I have got some problems comprehending your thinking.
Firstly, do you think it is much of a problem these days for creative players to not be physically strong? It seems to me that part of being a footballer these days is having the ability to know when to go down, and you get free kicks, so being strong may no longer be all it is cracked up to be. I watched Grealish against West Brom the other night, and he hit the deck about fifteen times in the ninety minutes. One of them was a massive over reaction to a bit of contact that got a player sent off, and another was when he wasn't as 'strong' as our former man Ajayi but went down and 'won' a penalty.
Secondly, do you not think that some of the best players we have played against this season have been small, sleight players?
Thirdly, if having strong wide and forward players is important to you why the hell do you keep banging the drum about Lamy, who was brushed off the ball so easily it wasn't true. I think when they shook hands after the game at London Road last season, Peterborough's right back took some of Lamy's pocket money off him.
smiler depends how a good a player you are. Taylor was best of our not tall or slightly built players but we couldn't play him right. He wanted ball further up the pitch him against defender he couldn't run at defenders. Flo & Miller aren't strong enough simple as. Lamy never got a proper chance. He was a good height/build, I only saw him twice but rated him.
In terms of pure footballing ability; Taylor/Lamy v Flo/Miller - absolute light years between them. Taylor was neither fast or skillful - just because your legs move fast doesn't mean that you have pace - and remind me, when did he actually beat an opposition defender?
I'm confused are we saying the wingers aren’t physically strong? Gwrus thinking is Taylor too weak Now Miller and Flo too weak/not good enough by that thinking perhaps we should play Smith on wing because he’s strong and doesn’t score goals so on that basis where does that leave your mate Hirst? He’s neither strong nor scores goals perhaps Warne could stick him at left back
I dont know what Gwru is saying Uttis. I'm saying that being 'strong enough' as Gwru puts it isn't an attribute that every player needs. Miller and Josefzoon both seem to me to be fairly quick and can both beat a man, but the end product has been a bit disappointing. I dont get the criticism of them being 'not strong enough'. Gwru actually applauded the selection of Vassell out wide on the basis that he is 'strong enough'. He certainly is, but he looked like a fish out of water. He then bangs on about Lamy, who looked good against Donny Rovers Juniors but totally out of his depth in Mesters Football. And he still won't acknowledge that Warne is the only manager who has actually given Lamy a chance. I will admit that trying to work out what Gwru means and then applying it to other things he says has given me a headache.
Another idiotic post to add to your many others Gwru. Warney isnt my man. Look back only to my last post to see that I thought it was a bad move picking Vassell out wide and that I think Miller and Josefzoon have disappointed with their end product. We have started playing 352 which means no places for out and out attacking wide players. Whether that is because Warne doesnt trust the two of them, or whether he has done it for other reasons (to get two up front without giving away the midfield) or maybe a bit of both, I dont know. Neither do you. How we might accommodate the return of a fit Ogbene is an interesting one. Something we could have a decent discussion about if you were capable of one, but instead you want to reduce everything to nonsensical one liners and off the cuff rubbish, so I wont hold out too much hope. I havent even mentioned that you (Mr 'not strong enough') used to advocate playing Taylor through the middle. Lol.
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smiler Taylor lack of height but strong enough. As I said we never played him right. I've given Flo & Miller a chance but I don't rate them. Flo did flatter to deceive against Preston but since then showed nothing. Miller no end product.
If you don't rate a particular player that is fair enough Gwru, but there are massive inconsistencies in your reasons from one to the the next. I can't believe your are saying that Jon Taylor was 'strong enough' (whatever that means) and that Miller isn't, for example.
Then again, you just go on instinct and gut feeling with players, don't you? Same as NH horses.
Just for me, to make my Christmas, will you just acknowledge that Paul Warne is the only manager who has looked at Julien Lamy and given him a chance with a professional contract? Just for me. It shouldn't hurt too much. You might even feel better for it.
Just for me, to make my Christmas, will you just acknowledge that Paul Warne is the only manager who has looked at Julien Lamy and given him a chance with a professional contract? Just for me. It shouldn't hurt too much. You might even feel better for it.
Smiler - I once wanted a full Brazil kit for Christmas when I was a lad - but I didn't get one. I fear you're about to suffer the same disappointment!
At least you can have a chuckle for Christmas, Glenn. Jon Taylor - strong enough! I know you really rated Taylor, Glenn, but even you would admit that though he had many qualities, Jon Taylor did not have a lot of physical presence.
In terms of pure footballing ability; Taylor/Lamy v Flo/Miller - absolute light years between them. Taylor was neither fast or skillful - just because your legs move fast doesn't mean that you have pace - and remind me, when did he actually beat an opposition defender?
taylor reminded me of forest gump running away from the bullies
I might have shown you the photo of me presenting the MOM award to him Smiler, after the Ipswich game in 2017? He came up to my waist! I was at the Portsmouth game, along with 252 other Rotherham fans, the day he scored that wonder goal in our 0-1 away victory. I can honestly say that I don't recall one other highlight from his appalling, light-weight career at RUFC!
When you think of the wide men we struggled with a couple of seasons ago - Taylor, Newell, Forde and someone else I can't even remember, we really are in a better place.
Taylor was fairly quick, but never as quick as he looked when his legs were going ten to the dozen. A bit like Richie Towell, who I also put in the 'flattered to deceive' category. In fact if it hadn't been for Taylor's famous strength I don't know if he would have made it as a pro (!). I rated him a fraction more than you did Glenn, but I don't think we have ever really missed him or any of the others you mention.
Taylor was a one touch player make room for a cross or shot. Out of four wingers we had then for end product I'd say he had more than the other 3. Regarding Lamy yes Warney gave him a years contract but then loaned him out last January & got two worse players in Adelakun & Koroma. Then released him this summer & kept Jones, no logic in that. To cap it all two wingers we have now are no better than the two I've mentioned from the January window last season.
You couldnt quite manage it, could you Gwru? Warne is the ONLY manager who has ever given him a contract. You know it. I know it. We all know it. Merry Christmas!
