When have i said if you haven't managed a football league club our opinions are wrong or don't matter. It is an opinion, but just to criticise Barker in particular imo is poor form because i don't believe you have even seen him in action on the training pitch. I think you have a much better knowledge of the game and the finer arts than i have but sometimes you just appear to want to have a go at Barker.Your last paragraph of your last post is a good balanced assessment imo.
Jamie Mackie said it best on sky sports even thought it hurt to see us outed like that and was a little embarrassing. Along the lines of we get as many back as fast as we can and hope Watford miss so we can get a touch from a goal kick.
You can talk about budgets/parachute payments/bigger clubs, but surely we are better than what we have mustered recently?
Got to agree with Brad. We all know the cir***stances and to some extent sympathise with Warne but to retain fan interest Stewart must make a change and bring in someone else to wreak something extra from this squad and also allow them to spend some of the money he has ac***ulated from TV money.
We are floundering need a change of manager trouble is if we leave it until the new year too late. I hope warney can turn it around as I get older I get dafter.
In the last two games we have gone two down inside ten minutes and it's a long way back from there. The goals conceded have been just shocking. Schoolboy errors from experienced defenders. I honestly dont see how you can blame the manager for that unless you blame him for picking those players, who have defended quite well in the early part of the season. Nobody can tell me that he tells them to defend badly. It's easy to say he is accountable but short of being on the field to head it and kick it, what the hell can he do when Wood and MacDonald challenge each other or Harding has an air shot? The Bournemouth performance was good. Brentford was decent. The last two we have given away inside them or fifteen minutes but I cant work out how what happened at the start of those games can be laid at the door of the manager. Warne shouldn't be fired any more than Wilder should be. They are both the right men to get the best out of the clubs they are at.
Why are we playing with wing backs? Harding he's been one of our better players this season at right back not in a back 3. No good bringing Flo & Miller on not strong enough like Clarke. 4-5-1 all we can play. Crooks he's getting in shooting positions we've not got nobody else he might have a scoring game. Vassell looks only player we can play on the left, at least he's strong enough. Play Wiles at left back. Olosunde out wide on the right.
I don't think Warne should go, I do think he needs to be sat down by the owners and told some home truths. I do think we need to change the coaching set up and I think that warne is a "happy path" manager, he struggles to deal with difficult man management issues and people that stand up to him, this has led to a number of players being pushed out and others protected. The point made on here about the lack of a real left back coverage has been an issue for 2 seasons and for me Warne loves Mattock and seems to not give him any real competition for his place. Having his best mate as a coach doesn't sit right with me, I think we would benefit as a club with less of the pals act.
I think Woody sees the game better than most of our centre backs - so for me he plays instead om MacDonald, who seems good at fouling in the opposition's box, but my dog would be more of a goal threat...
Plus he gives us a goal scoring option from set pieces.
So Woody, despite his age etc, wins hands down for me.
Apart from that - needs 100% guts and effort - and a slice or three of luck.. on quality we haven't got it, sadly.
Plenty of time to recover if we can find a way to do it...
It’s time for Paul Warne to reflect on what he is trying to achieve and how he sees the development of his young players.
If was advising the likes of Ben Wiles I would saying he should be asking for a transfer. The constant playing out of position is detrimental to his progress as well as the balance of the team. The same goes for Jamie Lindsay he gives his all and seems to be the one to be replaced.
Surely it is time to acknowledge these two plus Dan Barlaser are the future and the team should be built around them so we at least get some continuity. Are Iheckwe and Macdonald the best two centrebacks if so play them as a two and stop messing. Is Harding the best right back if so play him and stop messing. That leaves other positions to fill but if you are going to play players out of position surely it should not be your best players.
You cannot play with wingbacks if you have not got any. You cannot play someone in the 10 role just because it’s a good idea. We have not got anyone good enough to play 10. So stop messing.
Injuries have been disruptive but we need to build a team now capable of welcoming these players back and moving on.
Sorry to appear negative but the management need to put down a structure that can bring out the best in players and for goodness sake stop messing about.
I think it is fair to say that most managers take with them people who they are friends with and people they trust. Warnock who does very little coaching if his time was anything to go by at N.Y.S (came over for Friday if playing Saturday and met up with team if playing away on Tuesdays) he left the coaching to the excellent Blackwell and Jepson. Moore had Breckin for most of the time (he did jump ship and go with Robins to Barnsley i believe) and Evans had the obnoxious Raynor with him. Add to this many others who do the same and a very good example is at Sheffield United where ex miller Alan Knill does a lot of tactics and coaching, who is very good friends with the manager.
I think Mattock has been a very good servant for us but i believe he is a player who is very much on the decline. We bought Purrington but on his 20 or so appearances he looked slower than Mattock to me and was moved on. We have signed Clarke i presume as cover, but again he looks short at the moment of what is required to me. We have used Robinson who does a good job and Jones who is only steady. I now believe we need to invest in a number one left back, but as usual they will be hard to come by and a good one might be out of our budget.
Not sure about this 'Happy Path' manager and he struggles to deal with difficult man mangement issues. I have very little evidence to back it one way or the other. However, when i have been up to Parkgate there is no messing about and Barker is a very tough taskmaster who gets his points over well. Warne has moved people on like Broadfoot , Fisher and others who he felt didn't make for a good dressing room. He has also not been afraid to change the team (some people think to much), so i am not sure where this not prepared to stand up to people comes from. You will rarely hear Warne criticise his players in public, but i do believe that Warne privately gives out rollickings when needed. I know on the odd occasions Breckin has spoken to the people watching the training he has said the gaffer has given them some home truths. I think Warne is a very good man manager and it is possibly his number one strength. But yet again that is only my opinion.
whiston01 good points and well made. After a nights sleep and thinking back to the last 6 matches, I think overall we do not have enough good players, i do agree that playing our best players out of position isn't sensible or sustainable. This team will not get anywhere near the 40 points we got last time without significant investment in january. We know we cannot afford that, so my hope is that we clear out the players that cannot make it like vassell and Smith, i would sell crooks because he is not the player he was last year, reduce the wage bill as much as possible and spend what we can on a few higher quality proven experienced championship players to give us a chance. I do think we need to change the coaching staff, but that will not happen. there are players out there like Harding, championship players that are 3rd or 4th choice at their clubs. I would look abroad as well, we never seem to bring in anyone from europe yet every other team in this league have some decent players from abroad. We seem very narrow minded in our recruitment and the focus is on this good people a little too much, you can afford that luxory when you have the money to play that, we need players that can fight, want to fight, players with a good injury record (macDonald, robertson are sick notes).
I hope Warne doesn't have a 3rd relegation on his CV because he wants to stick to his principles
Why all these long posts? I've said what's wrong. Last 4 transfer windows are catching up with us now. Jones & Wood should have been retired by now. Unless you want a side that can't compete in the championship. We had Taylor whose lack of height held him back so what do we do get 3 more in the same Clarke, Flo & Miller. No left back when Mattock hasn't been the same player since last time in the championship. We are a forward short good enough for this level. Warney & Barker not up to management championship level, proven again. TS change it. If clubs around same level financially as us can stay in the championship we can with the right management.
Well said Glenn. I told you Gwru on the O.T post that i have forgot more on horse racing than you know. I will now say 'Derby' and'Villa' have forgot more than you know on football. They use long posts because they are articulate enough to get well made points over. You are way below their standard but sometimes you give me a laugh.
