Some of the knees of the posters on here will be snapping there's that much reaction of the negative kind. Anybody would think we are set adrift at the bottom of the table. We are actually fifth from the bottom.
When we drew with top of the league Bournemouth and possibly should have beaten them by all accounts , people were positive about 3.5.2 as though it was the second coming. Well now we are doomed and Warne needs sacking according to quite a few of you. I will just say this, since we have played two up top we have let seven goals in from three games. The ball comes back to you much quicker when you play an extra striker, players are not good enough or confident enough to keep the ball and let the ball do the work to create space, so what happens we tend to hoof the ball and play too deep. Today we started badly with two central defenders getting mixed up. That set us on the back foot and we never recovered. Coventry were stronger, first to second balls and better than us in all areas.
We should return to what we are best at, setting up to frustrate, keeping it tight,playing 4.2.3.1 or 4.4.1.1. This will enable us to stay in games longer. We need Barlaser back in the team quickly, as he is the best deliverer of a dead ball at set pieces (our main weapon). Somebody asked why we don't play Clarke instead of Mattock. Simple really, although Mattock appears well on the wane, he is a lot better than Clarke imo, who is lightweight and needs time away from here. This is going to be a tough task to stay up and i still feel we will fall short. However, i do believe Warne and co are the best chance we have got of keeping this team up and especially with the players we have available. McDonald, Robertson and most definitely Ogbene are a massive loss. If you are expecting the millers to take it to sides who have better players than us then you are barking up the wrong tree. A long way to go, give the lads and the management a chance. They deserve it.
I don’t think anyone is really calling for the manager to go but questions do need to be asked after such a dismal showing in a big game.
The players look shot for confidence and devoid of ideas. I said before the game the games to judge us on were ones like today and we looked a relegated side. No pattern of play, hoof ball, clumsy and random subs that just have no positive impact on the game.
I must have read it wrong then C. Gwru, Hillsborough and TH all want a change now. Yourself, Derby and Brad are all questioning whether we would get Warne and Co moved on if we could afford it is how i read it. Sorry if i got it wrong.
Glennmiller agreeing with me that is a first. I am not a happy puppy after that performance no celebration xmas lights and tv off. That is one of those results relegation looming nice easy game coming up at Watford I can not see where the next win is.
whiston my point is that warne is safe no matter what happens because a change will cost too much and doesnt promise any better results. For the board that is a sensible decision if they don't care if we get relegated again under warne. I am happy to say warne and barker are out of their depth in this league, third attempt now for warne and this team is worse than the last one, so the facts show he is not capable of managing at this level. Coventry and QPR are not much bigger than us or full of top quality championship players, our awful performances made them look better than they are. I am glad I am not paying to watch this rubbish this season, and i won't be going sitting outside in a face nappy or taking an untested poison just to make rich men richer. to be honest it is unlikely that I will ever see them play live again.
I am going back the NYS as soon as I can sticking my arm out for England. Get the pubs back open as well don't let this lockdown get to you missing all of the agro I used to get when we lost the good old days.
If we could get Paul Cook there's got to be a change of manager. Two seasons ago we had Ajayi & Vaulks that's this difference this time. Last two windows recruitment it's been lacking so what do you expect?
I must have read it wrong then C. Gwru, Hillsborough and TH all want a change now. Yourself, Derby and Brad are all questioning whether we would get Warne and Co moved on if we could afford it is how i read it. Sorry if i got it wrong.
Difference between asking a question and wanting him gone first thing in the morning.
I think questions do need to be asked as to why with a different set of players bar a few we are repeating the same mistakes? does that not fall on the manager and coaching staff who oversaw the last relegation also?
Of course the division is tough but we don’t seem to have got any wiser from last time which is a worry.
Warne comment Out of all the players, Vass was probably my best one as he was the one really trying to drive the team forward. He won the penalty and Dan despatched it.
Does anyone agree with this comment. Because this to me sums up warne. Yes he said the performance was bad. But the thing ia paul you havent learned anything from last time.
Watched game it shows how bad we were up front yes Vassell showed more than the other forwards & he wasn't good enough to get in the side 2 years ago in the end. Shocking recruitment done us.
Better team and a manager who knows what he is doing. Got to admit Blackman was descent without him who knows what the score would have been. Good human beings don't win football games keep your motor running warney how long can this go on.
Be critical by all means, but give the usual tripe a rest.
Which RUFC manager said this (word for word)? Answers on a postcard.
'We fought to get rid of the bad apples in the dressing room, not one particular person. They don`t come in on a Monday to be a bad apple but through a period of time they can drag people in the wrong direction. Our dressing room is a tight place and we have to make sure when we add to it the background checks off the pitch, are as equally important as their ability on it.`
The clue is that the idea of having 'good human beings' in your changing room is hardly a new one at RUFC.
Back to the present. We are on a bad run. In this division a couple of wins on the bounce can turn things round very quickly. It was always going to be a struggle and that is what it will be. We looked very predictable today and low on confidence. Whilst we have found a way to get two forwards in the side we aren't getting any quality in to them, and aren't playing any of the good football that gave me some hope earlier in the season. We have also let cheap goals in today, which we can't afford to do.
As far as Warne is concerned, I think he will leave this season if we don't stay up whether he is sacked or not. Not because relegation would represent failure, but because it just might be time for him to have a go at something new rather than having another go with us at what he had done before. And it might then be time for someone else to see whether they can achieve the task of establishing us in the Championship. Be careful what you wish for though. A different manager doesn't always mean better. Sunderland are now on the fifth manager who has had a go with them in League One, having sacked Parkinson who gwru touted as a Warne replacement for a while.
I tend to agree with Brad. I look forward to League One seasons. I dread Championship seasons.
Give Warne time to see whether he can get us going. He deserves the opportunity.
Posters on here seem to think it is correct to just comment on poor performances and say things like:-
1. Repeating same mistakes
2. Haven't learned anything from last time.
3. Shocking recruitment done us.
4.Safe no matter what happens.
5.Don't care if we get relegated.
6.Team worse than last one.
7.Not capable of managing at this level.
8.Picking out Q.P.R and Coventry games and saying we played badly
Are we repeating same mistakes as last time? Not sure we are. We are actually fifth from bottom with over a third of the season gone. I think that is a decent return. That shows we are not repeating same mistakes as last time but actually improving. Shocking recruitment done for us. So Ogbene, Harding, Lindsay, Ladapo, Sadlier and Olosunde are all bad recruits. I don't think so. They are good recruits for our budget. No manager is safe. this is a results based business and Warne will have to either keep us up or go very close to keep us up to keep his job. BTw if Warne was to walk away now there would be queue for his and his teams services. Why? Because they are bloody decent at their job. Don't care if we get relegated. This is the most ridiculous statement of them all. You get over ten times more money for being in the championship than division one. Stewart is a successful buisiness man and he knows it is good business sense for us to be in the championship even if we are punching miles above our weight... Why pick out Q.P.R and Coventry in isolation. What about the performances against Wednesday and Bournemouth. Oh i know, they failed to show up. Aye ok. We are battling in a division which is possibly a step too far for us. But believe me these Warne sides will give everything and make us proud.
sorry but our last two performances have certainly not made me proud, in fact quite the opposite. Something has to change because the one thing we had in spades seems to have gone, team spirit & when that goes we don't have much else really.
BTW Gwru. You are now shouting for Paul Cook to replace Warne. No doubt Cook is a good manager. However, i am not sure about your judgement. Not so long ago you were shouting for Parkinson to replace Warne and that he would get Sunderland flying up division one. How is he going on at Sunderland, i haven't been watching his progress.
I think I would agree with almost all of that, Whiston.
We were not very good today, no doubt about it. Every game is tough in this league and if we make schoolboy errors we will struggle. It is hard enough for us to get points when we play well, without giving soft early goals away. But I think the people we have, players and management team included, will give it their best go. Tonight I feel a bit disheartened but tomorrow is another day.
BTW Gwru. You are now shouting for Paul Cook to replace Warne. No doubt Cook is a good manager. However, i am not sure about your judgement. Not so long ago you were shouting for Parkinson to replace Warne and that he would get Sunderland flying up division one. How is he going on at Sunderland, i haven't been watching his progress.
Graham Coughlan was another name mentioned by gwru after we lost at Bristol Rovers in our promotion season. He went to Mansfield. I wonder how he is doing?
