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Paul Warne's interview after the game last night went into mentality and belief which I agreed with but it also sent mixed messages for me.

Does this belief not come from the coaching staff? Are we not doing enough to show faith in our own players? PW seems to describe every team we come up against at this level as "amazing" surely this is having a negative effect on the mindset of our own when we constantly praise and big the opposition up.

We seem to spend far too much energy on worrying about what the opposition are going to do that it looks like the players forget their own jobs because of this. A lot of the goals we let in is because we are camped far too deep and that's when the mistakes happen.

I think we have some decent players and with the right attitude can stay up but we cant keep playing with the handbrake on for 70 minutes a game.



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100%. Looks like our management bigging the opposition up is frightening the players into damage limitation mode from the kick off. I really fear for us in the next two home games as both Bournemouth & Brentford are far better teams than QPR.
It was a worrying interview as PW didn't look as self assured as normal & on the question of using the five subs virtually conceded that he is making mistakes with his starting line up which to me is a recipe for ultimate failure.

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There might be something in what you are saying. For balance though, I don't believe that he picked the starting eleven he did last night and sent them out to play negatively. I'm 100% sure that he sent that side out thinking that we would do our share of attacking. There wasnt a defensive minded player outside of the back four and If anything it was a bit too attack minded and left us a bit vulnerable. I also think that it is a fairly common tactic for managers to take the heat off players by saying 'I picked the team - it must be my fault' when things go badly. Klopp said it after Liverpool got hammered at Villa Park. I suspect that players respect and respond to that, but they will know that collectively they let everyone down last night. I'm not saying Warne is blameless (if we have to play the blame game) but I am sure he didnt ask Mattock and MacDonald to fall over each other, or Barlaser to hit a shocking risky cross field pass then give away a soft penalty all in the space of two minutes before half time. If he had a crystal ball he might have picked a different eleven, but Barlaser has been a standout for us and I dont think many would have predicted those errors from him. It's easy to criticise after the event. We all have very different ideas about who we would and wouldnt play, but the sort of lineup he went with last night was pretty much in line with what a lot of supporters have been clamouring for. Just saying.

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I think people are assuming that because he 'bigs up the opposition' in the press then he's doing the same to the players. Obviously we can't know for certain but I'd imagine he doesn't say exactly the same to the players as what he does to the press. I'd also be surprised if many of the players were looking on the club website or tuning into Radio Sheffield to see what he's said about the opposition before a game. I doubt what Warne says to the press is having much effect on the mindset, but that's just my opinion.

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Not a great fan of PW interviews or his style of psychology, it is like he has been on a Positive Psychology course at the local college and now he thinks he is an expert. I do agree with Smiler about how other managers approach these situations, look at Man City at the moment they are clearly not right mentally and even Pep is struggling to get them in the right place. Footballers seem to be very mentally fragile, easily offended and upset. The team is a lot better mentally when Wood is on the pitch he seems to bring something to the team that nobody else is capable of. At the moment Warne and Barkers approach is not working, the players are mentally weak, we haven't come from behind once this season, their tactics seem all over the place, recruitment questionable and their precious set pieces are abysmal at both ends of the pitch. It is not hindsight to say Barlasar plays better with a more aggressive midfielder along side him in the middle that was the same last year, this is about knowing your players strengths and weaknesses. One observation look at the style of cross that led to both our goals, they were not wingers crosses they were the type a wing back would play whipped in from a mid-point in the oppositions half, perhaps we can sacrifice the traditional winger (it hasn't worked so far this season) and try a approach where the whipped crosses come from the wide midfield or full backs, this allows us to play two up front and still have a solid midfield. We need to try something because at the moment the approach isnt working.

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Looks as if we losing matches before we go on to the pitch. He needs to take a leaf out of Warnock's book keep it simple don't overload players with too much information and don't ask players to do things they can't do. You are right about Woody never tries to be too clever and has the best attitude of any player we have got. Warney sort it out for Saturday as the old saying goes you never know what you will get until you bring your barrow back.

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TH MILLER wrote:

He needs to take a leaf out of Warnock's book keep it simple don't overload players with too much information and don't ask players to do things they can't do. 

 

With all due respect, you've no idea what information he's giving the players, none of us do.

I agree that Wood has to start on Saturday if fit, everyone around him plays better if he's in the team.



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I agree with a lot of what has been said. Playing Wiles and Barlaser in central midfield did look a bit light. You cant account for Barlasers handball and his awful cross field ball though. If you are talking about professionals doing a professional job, you have to look at the situation at 44 minutes and hope you can manage the game. We have been poor and are lucky to be going in at 1-1. It's a chance to regroup and reorganise, and QPR will be in their changing room deflated to only be on level terms. It isnt the time to be playing a high risk cross field glory ball when we are under no pressure and going 2-1 down. Either keep the ball or, if you cant keep the ball, play into the corner and chase it down. The penalty is insult to injury. I'm certain the manager was livid. That isnt to have a go at Barlaser who has been brilliant, but it was a nightmare two minutes, no getting away from it. I agree about Wood. He is a leader, a talker and an organiser -all qualities we needed on the pitch last night. Shaun MacDonald is in the same mould.

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Wiles and Barlaser didn't work as a pair in league one so it wont work a step up. I'm not sure why Jamie Lindsay was dropped from the side.

Agree about Wood, not sure on the statistics but we seem to pick up a lot more points/wins when he plays than when he is out of the team.

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