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Ts wont sack And indont think fans being their woausld have helped that dire performance Our wingers got crosses in box

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TH MILLER wrote:

Danny Cowley could do a decent job what about Joey Barton a couple of names come to mind. We play Preston on Saturday I might have to hide behind the sofa for that one.


 

Two great choices. Two managers with less Championship managerial experience put together than Paul Warne. One who led a team newly relegated from the Premier League (complete with parachute payments) to the dizzying heights of 18th and another who is currently awaiting trial for assault and could be in prison by the start of next season. 



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gwru wrote:

Brad & rest. If our club was managed correct there would be no unrest between posters on here. Tonight was that bad it wasn't true. You can't hide from that performance. If we can afford it time for a change of management.


 

Our club was being managed brilliantly to a promotion last season and there was unrest because you slagged off the management at every opportunity even when they were top of the league. You called for him to be sacked as soon as promotion was confirmed.

And if we got a new manager in and we played like we did last night for his first few games, would you want to 'get rid'? And then when the next one comes in would you want him to be sacked after a bad performance? Where does it end? 

If you want to sack the manager every time we don't win (or in your case, even if we do) then Rotherham United probably isn't the club for you. 



-- Edited by realmiller on Thursday 5th of November 2020 09:11:02 AM

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This is not your site or the millers your club typical woke speak if you do not agree with someone ban them. As far as experience in this league Danny Cowley kept Huddersfield up last season that would do very nicely for me.

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TH MILLER wrote:

This is not your site or the millers your club typical woke speak if you do not agree with someone ban them. As far as experience in this league Danny Cowley kept Huddersfield up last season that would do very nicely for me.


Huddersfield lost 25 games last season. How many of those would you have called for him to be sacked after?

Also where in this thread have I asked for anybody to be banned?



-- Edited by realmiller on Thursday 5th of November 2020 09:50:08 AM

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It is difficult to defend our second half performance last night. In the first half we passed the ball ok and pressed them back, where their manager after the game said they were overrun in midfield. In the second half you have to give Luton credit for their performance and they should have won the game by more than the 1-0. Luton stopped our wide men in the second half and we struggled to get a foothold once the wide men were no longer an influence. I do not believe it is a fitness problem because if you have watched Ross Burbeary(think he is still fitness coach, not been up this season) at work you would know how fit he gets the players. Luton looked physically stronger and worked tirelessly to create something.

One of our major weapons in the last couple of seasons have been set pieces. The last two games has shown that we are not delivering from set pieces. Expect work to be done on that and improvement forthcoming. I have said before the real money is needed to get strikers and pay the big wages. We cannot do that and imo we are operating with Division one strikers. We also are missing three key players in S.McDonald (broken leg) ,Robertson and the key man Ogbene. Add to this Mattock going off after 10 minutes and the balance of the side was wrong. We have a bottom three budget and i think it will be difficult for us to stay up (always will be). However, i also believe that Warne and his team are still the best option to keep us up. It would be madness to sack Warne and company as they have moulded this young team into getting us away from the bottom of the league and competitive in most games. We will always get knee jerk reactions because that is human nature. Luton have a young manager, with Paul Hart as his tutor. Warne has Barker as his guide who imo is a very good coach. when covid goes, please go up to Parkgate and watch him work. I think you will be complimentary about him. He is also very highly thought of by the English F.A and not just by a layman like me. One major change i would make on Saturday would be to change the goalkeeper. He cannot kick straight and looks to be carrying an injury. Sorry about the long post.

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We all said pre season we needed cover for Mattock, which didn't happen. We also wanted another striker and hoped Hirst would be that person when he signed. But until January, theres is no point in discussing other managers and players we don't have... we have what we have.

Warney need to find a way to get us creating, and taking, more chances. We don't create 'tap-ins' and that's what Lapapo needs - the ball in front of him.

He says in his post match interview that Vassell is looking good in training - he has to get a start in my opnion - just because what we have seen so far up front is not producing ANY goals by our strikers (Ladapo has one, I think that's it). So he should get a game on bases of he can't do worse.

If he plays Smith as our only Striker we are doomed in my opinion. Smith can hold up play, create chances for others - but that needs another striker alongside him. Smith will never get more than a handful of goals in a season - he's just that sort of player. Hard working yes - clinical no.

I still think the squad is better than our last visit to the Championship & we look ok at the back and middle. But the Manager needs to find a formula with these players that creates chances in the box, and more goals, and hang on until January when we need 2 x strikers and a left back.

It's hard being a Miller....



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Vassell he's not the answer. I wrote him off earlier this year in league 1. He got 1st run on a defense but not quick enough or strong enough. Hirst lone striker with Sadlier behind him.

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My take on it so far is we are a small club in a big league. We came up via pts per game. Which is no big thing We are now in championship where its deja vu warne is playing same tactics. We have won 2 games so far. My issue with warne is this some players seem to get more chances than others A good example is crooks nothing against him but why did he get the nod over wiles when we needed some one with a bit more speed like sadlier or hirst. But no he put crooks on and i can think of two attacking chances we had where because he hasnt the skill he either lost it or they got numbers back. Some fans may take umbrage on my criticism. But its plain to see in our eyes watching match last night Smith never looked like scoring which is his job

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Regarding left back cover if Trevor Clarke isn’t trusted to fill in then why is he still at the club? It will do us no good having to play Ben Wiles there, and it will do his long term development no good playing out of position.

Smith needs moving on, I’ve never been a massive fan but appreciate what he’s done in his time with us but his biggest contribution at the minute is just to foul the opposition CB.

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Can’t comment on the game last night as it was the first game i haven’t been able to see

 

Do want to reply to several comments i have seen on this thread about favouritism shown to Crooks.

 

Don’t understand to be honest.

 

Crooks was one of the best midfielders in league 1 last season. On that basis he started the season in the team.

He hasn’t played well, he’s been dropped to the bench. Fair enough isn’t it.

 

Are people suggesting he shouldn’t come on as sub? Should we discard him entirely ?

 

He’s a key player for us, made us tick last season. He’s been dropped. He gets occasional chances to come on as sub presumably setting him the challenge to win back the shirt. Fair enough isn’t it. 

 

Seems to me the tactic most managers would take with an off form but important player. 

 

Can’t see any favouritism there, just a manager trying to get a good player back to his best. 



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DKNY, Who do you think think you are? Coming on here being rational and talking sense! 



-- Edited by realmiller on Thursday 5th of November 2020 12:59:20 PM

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DKNY he is a good player and capable, but Crooks seems disinterested, whatever is wrong with him needs to be fixed and hopefully our management team can deal with it



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I don't think the manager needs to go that would be silly and expensive, I have never liked his leadership style because I do not think it works when things aren't going well. People say Barker is a great coach, ok I will accept that point but if he is that good how come we have one way of playing and struggle to change it in games, that has been a problem for more than this season. Also it is interesting that Luton manager saw a problem and made a half-time change to deal with our wide players, our response was to do nothing to counter that until our 3rd change which also didn't work. We have to judge them on outcomes, it is what matters at the end of the day, playing the £we are too small and can't compete" is an excuse. How many points have we lost from winning positions this season? How many times have we come from behind? These are about the belief and motivation of the team the mental strength and at the moment that is not there and that lands at the management teams door, so they need to change something and try some new ideas because the current leadership approach and tactics are not working.

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