Championship clubs have plans now to resume this season but it's got to happen. Covid-19 it's nowhere near under control. Watching sky sports news earlier that doesn't seem to matter to the premiership. Even for training it's alien to how we know it. Leagues 1 & 2 will follow their lead on how promotion/relegation it's decided.
i've seen a suggestion that playoffs will be held for teams in playoff places below top 2.
at Wembley, prob 2 x 1 legged semis on same day then final a few days or week after. no crowd but possibly money for those clubs from telly & ifollow.. & easy enough to make it safe at just 1 venue.
I like that idea as its likely less clubs will winge about Millers and Cov being promoted as EFL can argue if you think you are good enough to be promoted, you have the chance to prove it via playoffs...
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The "rogue clubs" in question led by Posh chairman McAnthony have big budgets & have overstretched themselves in order to try & get into the Championship (hence Ipswich being involved) so player & staff safety can go to hell because money is involved. My advice to the EFL is simple, grow a pair & make a ******* decision one way or another. If they have difficulty just imagine they're bullying a small club like Bury or Macclesfield, that should help eh?
According to the BBC there is a general acceptance among clubs in both League One and League Two that resuming the current campaign is impossible. So why do we have to wait till Monday?
The "rogue clubs" in question led by Posh chairman McAnthony have big budgets & have overstretched themselves in order to try & get into the Championship (hence Ipswich being involved) so player & staff safety can go to hell because money is involved. My advice to the EFL is simple, grow a pair & make a ******* decision one way or another. If they have difficulty just imagine they're bullying a small club like Bury or Macclesfield, that should help eh?
Dead right Brad. The rogue clubs are all desperate because they have gambled on promotion and (albeit for reasons that weren't very foreseeable) it has backfired. Of course, it would have helped them if they had managed to get more points - or more points per game - in the thirty-odd games they managed to play, but that seems not to be a factor. They are trying to dress it up, but it is a bit of an undignified scramble for cash with the health and wellbeing and common sense gone out of the window.
The "rogue clubs" in question led by Posh chairman McAnthony have big budgets & have overstretched themselves in order to try & get into the Championship (hence Ipswich being involved) so player & staff safety can go to hell because money is involved. My advice to the EFL is simple, grow a pair & make a ******* decision one way or another. If they have difficulty just imagine they're bullying a small club like Bury or Macclesfield, that should help eh?
Dead right Brad. The rogue clubs are all desperate because they have gambled on promotion and (albeit for reasons that weren't very foreseeable) it has backfired. Of course, it would have helped them if they had managed to get more points - or more points per game - in the thirty-odd games they managed to play, but that seems not to be a factor. They are trying to dress it up, but it is a bit of an undignified scramble for cash with the health and wellbeing and common sense gone out of the window.
Agree 100% Smiler/Brad. Hopefully now League 2 have voted for promotion for top 3 and playoffs, EFL will try to force L1 to accept same on Monday, with us & Cov going up and 4 below us in playoffs. You can bet though, that being Rotherham, we are more likely to get shafted. They should not have clubs dictating to them...
I just don't see their case. They are effectively saying they will wait for as long as it takes, but there isn't the money in League One to put the testing and other infrastructure in place to get games played any time soon even if you believe that will work. Are they saying that they will wait for as long as it takes? That doesn't work if all the other leagues are done and ready to move on. It is nonsense. They have had 34 or so games. That is enough to say that the league is a fair reflection of who deserves to finish where. Move on. I was not really bothered which league we were in, but now I am if only to see that these 'big clubs' who have overspent don't get their own way. The tail can't be allowed to wag the dog.
Its certainly frustrating and the chairmen of the six rogue clubs should hang their heads in self-interest shame but the EFL statement just published on RUFC's official site says in relation to League 1 and League 2 clubs that in the event of a curtailment of the season, the EFL Board outlined how this could be addressed through a framework that includes maintaining the principle of promotion and relegation, league tables to be determined via unweighted points per game (PPG) and Play-Offs to remain in every division to determine the final promotion place. Bearing in mind that most League 1 clubs believe its going to be impossible to complete the season, I think we are now pretty well promoted and this will be confirmed next week.
Its certainly frustrating and the chairmen of the six rogue clubs should hang their heads in self-interest shame but the EFL statement just published on RUFC's official site says in relation to League 1 and League 2 clubs that in the event of a curtailment of the season, the EFL Board outlined how this could be addressed through a framework that includes maintaining the principle of promotion and relegation, league tables to be determined via unweighted points per game (PPG) and Play-Offs to remain in every division to determine the final promotion place. Bearing in mind that most League 1 clubs believe its going to be impossible to complete the season, I think we are now pretty well promoted and this will be confirmed next week.
I really really really hope you are right Trevor, and if you are I'll buy everyone that has posted on this thread so far a pint in the Loading Bay an hour before our 1st Home game back in the Championship !!
How I'm reading it no relegations from league2 is that to even the ELF up? I up from the National league into league 2. 4 up from League 2 into league 1. 3 relegated & promoted from League 1. Hope the championship & premiership are in sync with all this. Then not confirmed if ppg used in league 2 are weighted or not? EFL say not so if that's the case in league 1 how I understand it Peterborough won't get in the play-offs. The plot thickens!
On an unweighted PPG basis, Coventry and Rotherham will be promoted and Wycombe, Oxford, Portsmouth and Fleetwood will battle it out in the play-offs. Seems like a deal to me. Message to Posh and Ipswich = should have done better!
If we were on the same position as posh and Ipswich don't you think we would react in the same manner. My hope is that with league 2 setting a precedent that the league we are in will have to follow. Looks to me the EFL are trying to dodge having to go to court could it be sorted out on Monday?.
I'm not sure our chairman would have behaved in that way. I think he would have taken a similar principled stance to that being taken by my new hero Carol Shanahan, Port Vale chair(man?). Here's the BBC report after she voted to abandon the rest of the League 2 season:
Vale are eighth in League Two and would miss out on any potential play-offs.
"It wasn't an easy thing to do. It's the hardest thing I've ever done," Shanahan told BBC Radio 5 Live.
"Then I had to do the awful thing of ringing the manager to tell him.
"Port Vale fans could look at it and ask 'why on earth did Carol vote for this that meant we missed out?'. Well, it was for the greater good. I think it was the right thing to do."
... I could imagine TS taking exactly that view. He's that kind of guy. Shame on the rogue six.
A few weeks ago on BBC sport looking at it legally said there's got to be a 75 % vote each league in favour of ending this season. So it needs at least one of the rogue 6 to side with the majority then will get the necessary vote in favour needed. If it goes through I'm glad we'll be in the top two to avoid however the play-offs work. Can't see those happening for a while yet.
It is pathetic the reaction from the tiddlewinks on twitter from both sides. If the genius gwru is correct and we only need one vote from the mardy six today it could be promotion. I can wash my scarf at last nothing much to celebrate apart from we are not having to play behind closed doors or we are not in the play offs. Just hope things get sorted today or am I playing the song I don't like Monday's by the Boomtown rats.
Here's an article from one of today's national newspaper sports pages (I won't say which, I don't want this thread to degenerate into political diatribe) which might settle your nerves today:
League One clubs are this week set to follow League Two in curtailing their season.
Discussions have taken place over the weekend with Rick Parry, the chairman of the English Football League, asking the 23 clubs to put forward their plans individually before a vote which has not been called yet, but may take place tomorrow.
It is understood that the top two, Coventry City and Rotherham United, will be promoted with the final place determined via the play-offs - which will involve either four or eight teams.
As with League Two, the final places are expected to be decided by points per game after the EFL consulted a statistician to determine whether PPG or weighted PPG - where home and away games are taken into account - is a fairer system. (This won't affect RUFC).
