Just sobered up a bit the last away game I went to 2002 at Wednesday's this time of year. Absolutely freezing won 2-1 5,000 millers went the great King Ronnie bowing to the crowd at the end of the game that was a day to remember.
You could be right the main man usually is. On to Coventry can we get a result like that if we did even a miserable old devil like me would start to think about promotion.
Back to the OP. Read somewhere & I agree we only playing to 75% of what we are capable of. I'm not bothered about which dugout Warney sits in. You need a close knit squad only on the football side end of the day everyone is the same we are just a number. Make best out of it you can. I'd like to see us now toughen up start with our best 11. Left back seems a problem position by sounds of it, Mattock? Another thing a manager shouldn't get too close to his players cause he's got decisions to make for the best interests of the club. At Coventry I'd go 4-5-1. Iversen; Olosunde Ihiekwe Wood or Thompson Mattock or Wiles; Ogbene Lindsay Barlaser Crooks Koroma; Smith. I've said Wood or Thompson cause 2 games in quick succession for Wood?
GlennMiller is it a man's game or what. Warney should never have switched dugouts it's a sign of weakness. All this closeness he's on about no. In the end players don't bother about that when it comes to money. They leave cause they are either too good for us or we don't need them. Nobody is bigger than the club.
Nice one Hilsborough. Playing 4:5:2 unless we are playing goalie when needed Lol
Coventry have only lost three league games all season. However, they draw a lot (12) only Gillingham have drawn more. They have the second best defence in the league but have only scored 45 goals. This doesn't surprise me from a Mark Robins team who seems to like to pack the midfield and play either 3:5:1:1 or 3:4:2:1. In 2020 they have won nine and drawn 2 games in the league so are bang in form.
They like to play the lone striker with Godden being the preferred one. He has scored 11 this season. Biamou also plays as the lone striker but is anything but prolific and my guess it will be Godden if fit. Coventry have used the non league market well getting Bakayoko, Biamou, O'Hare and Godden had a long time in non league before getting his chance in the league. O'Hare is the playmaker along with youth product Jordan Shipley. No nonesense Kyle McFadzean is the stopper at the back. A 33 yr old who has always lacked pace even as a young lad at Sheff Utd.
I have to say i am very surprised Coventry are pushing for promotion. Not having a home ground, a team lacking in skill and fire power and no real stars. All credit to them for being up there but i have a feeling they could be the one of the top four who start to feel the pinch. I hope it is tomorrow night.We are not in the best of form playing wise but are getting the results. If we can return to near our best form i think we can win. They are a bit like us on a great run of results but appearing to scrape results. The manager will have them well prepared and will play a safety first style imo tomorrow. With that in mind i am going for a low scoring draw or 1-0 to us.
Nice one Hilsborough. Playing 4:5:2 unless we are playing goalie when needed Lol
Coventry have only lost three league games all season. However, they draw a lot (12) only Gillingham have drawn more. They have the second best defence in the league but have only scored 45 goals. This doesn't surprise me from a Mark Robins team who seems to like to pack the midfield and play either 3:5:1:1 or 3:4:2:1. In 2020 they have won nine and drawn 2 games in the league so are bang in form.
They like to play the lone striker with Godden being the preferred one. He has scored 11 this season. Biamou also plays as the lone striker but is anything but prolific and my guess it will be Godden if fit. Coventry have used the non league market well getting Bakayoko, Biamou, O'Hare and Godden had a long time in non league before getting his chance in the league. O'Hare is the playmaker along with youth product Jordan Shipley. No nonesense Kyle McFadzean is the stopper at the back. A 33 yr old who has always lacked pace even as a young lad at Sheff Utd.
I have to say i am very surprised Coventry are pushing for promotion. Not having a home ground, a team lacking in skill and fire power and no real stars. All credit to them for being up there but i have a feeling they could be the one of the top four who start to feel the pinch. I hope it is tomorrow night.We are not in the best of form playing wise but are getting the results. If we can return to near our best form i think we can win. They are a bit like us on a great run of results but appearing to scrape results. The manager will have them well prepared and will play a safety first style imo tomorrow. With that in mind i am going for a low scoring draw or 1-0 to us.
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Thank-you lol I forgot the or between the player's names, we know Warne is probably going to start Vassell but Ladapo and Smith are my choice of strikers. We won't get many chances. It will be a different game than when we played them at home
I think it will be a close-run thing I'm going 2 1. Hoping its on radio Sheffield will be ringing wife to listen to it from Sweden
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They have lost once at home this season and are in a great run of form just as we are. We have a bit in hand on everyone but them so a defeat wouldn't be the end of the world. A draw would be very good. Personally I think we can win it. We have nothing to fear and have won other big away games this season. Coventry won't be relishing playing us. We need to go there and be brave and do what we do best - go to win it and press them like we did at our place. If they handle it and beat us fair play to them. The winner on Tuesday isnt guaranteed to finish above the other side come the season end, so it isnt must win or mustn't lose either way. As the home side (kind of) they are the team under the greater pressure to win it. Sunderland play Fleetwood on Tuesday too, so there will be points dropped elsewhere. All good stuff.
"We need to go there and be brave and do what we do best - go to win it and press them like we did at our place"
..said alomost exactly this in pub last night, agree 100% mate, since we've started pressing and going fwd instead of starting slowly and passing around at the back, we've looked a very good team.
I'd be very happy with a point and fantastic if we can get a win..
If we lose, we have 3 winnable games coming up - but Warney needs a 'get at 'em and kill them off' message to the players when we play teams at the lower end of the table, as that is letting us down a little bit.... I'm desperate to stay in or near the top 2 places...
I want us to go up automatic. If we can win at Coventry it makes that more a possibility. We can win but I want us to be given the best possible chance with the starting 11. I don't want luck involved. I want to win deservedly. Definitely Adelakun needs replacing not starting with 3 strikers.
GlennMiller is it a man's game or what. Warney should never have switched dugouts it's a sign of weakness. All this closeness he's on about no. In the end players don't bother about that when it comes to money. They leave cause they are either too good for us or we don't need them. Nobody is bigger than the club.
Thanks to our resident HR consultant for this insightful contribution.
I think everybody knows that money talks in the short career that is football, Do you think that there might be any people skills involved in getting the most out of players while they are with us, though? And getting them to play for the manager and for each other?
Warne explained why he moved dugouts at the time he did it. He described it as not a big deal. As it happens, for what it is worth, our home form is better since the change than it was before it. Whether the move has much if anything to do with it I doubt. But you constantly overlook that (1) he is still in front of the West Stand and (2) it moves the opposition dugout as far as possible from their following.
Please can you shut up about it?
Whether you like it or not gwru whatever he is doing is working. That must really grate with you. Your answer of course is to attribute it to luck, which is a case of you being wilfully blind.
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-- Edited by smiler on Monday 24th of February 2020 03:19:16 PM
Not to forget that gwru's understanding of management derives from experiences at BSC in the 70's, and he seems unable to understand that using a whip and a chair in the 21st century isn't an effective management technique. He keeps repeating his mantras about Warne playing happy families and that he is a weak manager. I discovered in the early 90's that getting the staff onside is important. You want the staff to work with you not against you. It's not hard to achieve, but your idea that management is about barking out orders is Dickensian. A good starting point is to say I'd like you to jump, and this is why I'd like you to jump, rather than bellowing jump you f'ers. You explain why jumping is mutually beneficial. The best management trainer that I ever worked with said you can't manage by beating people with a stick any more. They break the stick in half and shove it up your harris. And that was over 20 years ago.
A good adage is that your staff are your most valuable asset. Use them wisely. Was I weak manager? No. Did I achieve results? Yes.
smiler known fact Warney moved dugouts cause his wife got involved with our away fans having a go at him at Donny. You couldn't move bunkers in the war! TC I was apprenticed trained at BSC when there was bout 4,000 worked there. Was none of if they said jump you jumped. Just pointed you in the right direction. Up to you if you saw it through. I did. You had to make on the spot calculations without any aids. Some brilliant people there I wanted to work for.
PS, 9.12 this morning gwru writes "I'm not bothered about which dugout Warney sits in" 11.26, just over two hours later "Warney should never have switched dugouts it's a sign of weakness"
smiler known fact Warney moved dugouts cause his wife got involved with our away fans having a go at him at Donny. You couldn't move bunkers in the war! TC I was apprenticed trained at BSC when there was bout 4,000 worked there. Was none of if they said jump you jumped. Just pointed you in the right direction. Up to you if you saw it through. I did. You had to make on the spot calculations without any aids. Some brilliant people there I wanted to work for.
Absolute bull gwru. I remember you putting that theory about once before. I asked someone who would know, and was reliably told it was nothing to do with that. If it is true that Mrs Warne got involved in a disagreement with away fans at Donny, why the hell would that result in moving from a dugout in front of one set of home supporters to a dugout in front of a different set of home supporters? Like many of your posts, that would make no sense whatsoever. I think you or someone else has put two and two together and made five.
Can we never mention it again?
I see you have endeared yourself to the faithful on MM again by demonstrating your sensitive side with your comments about the support for Adam Thompson and other players and staff who have lost people close to them. I hope to God they don't end up throwing you off there again. I was hoping that you would grow to love it again so much that you might stop bothering with this place.
-- Edited by smiler on Monday 24th of February 2020 05:26:28 PM
