We were much the better side in atrocious conditions and were very unfortunate not to win the game but that's how it goes sometimes. None of the teams at the top will get to the end of the season without dropping points here and there. The refereeing was baffling again. It is incredibly tight at the top and we are right in it which is fantastic.
Agree Smiler.
Quality of officials this season is terrible, but nothing is ever done...
Will hold judgement on our dissalowed goal and pens until I see the highlights.
Still top, still every chance and no games are easy...
Have a guess what I'm going to say? Loaning Lamy whose guilty? Crazy! Got a player fit just coming through. What we got in his place a player Bristol City had training with their under 23's may as well have been sat with me today. Koroma hope it's just lack of match sharpness cause he looked well off the pace today. We need Lindsay back in a midfield 3, either play with just one wide man or Smith up front on his own. Olosunde & Mattock full backs & Tilt for Wood. Sorted.
These games, top against lower end, always have the potential to be banana skins. They need every point they can squeeze out of the remaining games to avoid the drop; they're gonna fight, battle even in some cases cheat. Not saying they cheated today, but it was never going to be the push over that some may have thought. A point is a point we didn't lose.
A general point about refereeing. About ten times in the first half he warned their players about time wasting but he never booked anyone, and there was only one minute added on at the end of the first half. It took longer than that to restart after their goal. There is absolutely no point in warning players over and over again and eventually booking somebody with ten minutes to go. By then it's too late - the damage is done. Book someone early on and if they keep doing it book someone else. Simple. I dont blame Wimbledon at all. They were going to keep doing it until the ref stopped them, and he never got hold of it.
Time wasting was shocking and from 10 minutes in. Their tiny left back took two minutes per throw in. Anyway, the problem that PW identified himself in previous games seemed to undo us again (in my opinion) - not getting out of the starting gate. We were slow and cautious first half - I'd prefer us to go for the throat and push hard in the first 15 to get a settling goal. There was 5 or 6 goals in that game for us and Smithy has to start putting them away when a chance arrives. In the championship you get 1/4 of the chances you get in League 1 so you have to be clinical when the opportunity arises. Also today's referee was utterly dreadful and the penalty looked ropey especially when he didn't give us one from the two or three obvious ones. 2 points dropped.
Adelakun was awful and he was at Lincoln as well, but he is not a left winger so he is being played out of position. We have been quite poor the last 3 games compare any of those performances to the Ipswich game. We are still top and took 7 points out of 9 when not playing well, that is a good thing. Crooks is a wonderful player, so calm on the ball and overall we showed great fight. Down sides for me was the ref it is not possible for so many officials to be as bad as they are, there has to be another reason. Smith gives too many fouls away and leads to lost possession a lot his missed one on one was terrible the keeper was out and a simple lob was all it needed, Freddie is a better goal scorer. Main thin is the weather affected Wood he was shocking today, when he plays bad so do we. However we didn't lose and we have to realise that playing at 80% is not good enough and we need to raise our game again. Could be worse we could be that shambles of a club Wednesday
Our 1st half disallowed goal, it was messy but there was no foul, ref seem to 'guess' there was a foul because it looked messy.
Their Pen, looks like their player fell and our player couldn't stop his momentum and fell on top of the falling player, again there is no way this was clear and the ref again took it upon himself to decide with no clear evidence.
In both cases, unless he was SURE there was an offence, the result should have been no foul.
It must be at least 10 points now so far bad officials have cost us, it's not funny - nothing is done, I'd be very happy to take VAR into the EFL, it cannot possibly be worse than relying on the sub standard ****e we get just now.
I thought the ref was a loose cannon, giving odd decisions for/against both sides.
The disallowed goal - if anything if there was a foul it should have been for their players laying on the ball. If he waits half a second, the ball goes in and he isn't giving a free kick. I honestly believe he blew up quickly just to sort the mess out.
The penalty wasn't one. Every game you see tangles of legs and players going down from corners and free kicks and nothing is given. There was contact both ways, but as soon as their player went down you know there was a fair chance the ref would give it because he spent most of the game guessing, and he wasn't going to miss the chance to grab the limelight.
Being a ref is so so hard, every little thing scrutinised. However I cannot defend officials who do not know the meaning of consistency when very similar occurances happen in a game and the official decides a different outcome. Football is entertainment, well today was ruined for both sets of fans, teams, coaches, neutrals, corporate... everybody.
Look, we had enough chances to win 5 games of football today, its our own fault and yet aqgain our own shocking game management that yet again we've dropped points so late in a game. But that's not to detract the amazing effort everyone gave, they don't mean to miss. We kept going and kept at it.
The Respect campaign will never get the weight behind it needs until everybody in the game get a level of consistency we should rightly expect for the level of game we're paying good money to watch. Sort it out IFAB / FA I am not amused
I don't know why that ref bothered having assistant referees either. Two or three times he gave free kicks from forty yards away when the lino was five yards away and saw nothing wrong, and quite a few times the lino waved one way for a throw-in and the ref pointed the other. Their substitution after their equaliser was an utter farce. It was all very odd.
It is a hard job but that bloke made it far harder than it needed to be.
Rant over!
-- Edited by smiler on Saturday 15th of February 2020 11:15:46 PM
When we lose or drop a couple of points it is always the official's fault. We were playing fourth from bottom the manager takes the blame not good enough. These are the games you push on. The loan signings didn't do anything does No 14 know what tracking back means. Millers fan sat at the side of me kept shouting get him off. With him playing like that you can put any one at left back they are isolated.
When we lose or drop a couple of points it is always the official's fault. We were playing fourth from bottom the manager takes the blame not good enough. These are the games you push on. The loan signings didn't do anything does No 14 know what tracking back means. Millers fan sat at the side of me kept shouting get him off. With him playing like that you can put any one at left back they are isolated.
My criticism of the ref isn't sour grapes. I put something similar after the Burton game, which we won.
Increasingly I am coming away from games (win, lose or draw) shaking my head, baffled by some of what I have seen. I can accept that 50/50 calls can go against you, but there are an increasing number of glaring errors. The back pass from Burton was a prime example. The handball a yard outside the area by the Hull keeper was another.
The Wimbledon players were taking the mick yesterday with time wasting. They were laughing at him. Until he booked one of them, it was going to carry on, and it started after about five minutes. Refs need to understand the game well enough to know that teams waste time not just with five minutes to go, but from the start to disrupt the flow of the game. At least a dozen times in the first half he ran to wave to their players to hurry up, waving his arms or pointing at his imaginary watch, but he booked nobody and then we got one added minute at the end of the half.
While their first substitution was taking place the ref was was talking to their left back for the umpteenth time about time wasting at throw-ins. At the same time, behind the refs back the player being taken off walked at a snails pace from the family stand touchline all the way across the field. What happened to leaving the field at the nearest exit point? Also second half, half they had a player treated in their own six yard area a yard from the touchline and we all had to wait while he limped over to the dugouts, again instead of leaving the pitch a yard away. Those sort of things are just common sense and really frustrate fans. They give the impression that the ref really doesn't know what he is doing, so that you lose confidence in his ability to get bigger decisions right.
Pleased with the tempo we played at in poor conditions. Bit of a freak game another day it should have been 6/7-2.
I think Ladapo has to come back in, he’s the most natural instinctive finisher at the club. I think yesterday he’s on for 90 minutes he gets a hat trick.
Won’t mention the ref too much but the standard is getting worse every week, the game management yesterday from him was non existent.
Referee aside team selection cost us that game. Loans in last window & Lamy out takes some explaining to me. Akelakun brings nothing to the side. Koroma he's got to get match sharp before we can judge him, how's he going to do that? Playing non-full backs why? when you have two on the bench. Lindsey needs to brought in to a midfield 3, just play one wide man. Olosunde & Mattock can give us some width. Football it's a simple game play to your strengths.
I never noticed the ref that much warney had no complaints about the penalty. They coped with the conditions better and we're smarter than us. With the performance I saw yesterday I am not very confident for the rest of the season.
Wimbledon worked very hard for their point. Well done to them. They will be delighted. We had five attempts on goal to every one of theirs. We did enough to win it comfortably but it was one of those days. It was all quite entertaining in awful conditions and credit to both teams for that. I thought their left back was excellent by the way - he was nearly as quick as Ogbene and nullified him, and also got forward well.