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Rochdale tomorrow

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How many times do we have to keep saying we start slow at home? It comes from the manager and I’m fed up of watching it.

Hopefully a change is due because I’m sick to death of the nicey nicey approach. I want us to get about sides, make it difficult and be in the oppositions face from the first minute especially against poor opposition. Sadly we’ve got a weak man in charge who won’t inspire any of this. He’s got as much will to win as an 80 year old retired vicar.

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Every defeat....sack the manager. Grow up the lot of you. The Millers have plummeted to 8th, 2 points behind Peterborough who are third.

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There was just over 8,000 millers fans today don't you think we deserved a lot better than drivel we saw today. The way things are going we are going to lose them. A change in manager is overdue I am afraid he has run his race I saw nothing today a very despondent miller

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It’s a surprise that the home crowd has stayed at a good level considering the abject rubbish that’s been served up.

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Empty vessels make the most noise

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For me it's tactics and formations we can't break teams that sit deep and he seems unable to find a way

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The drum beat from the natives is getting louder. Time for a change.

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Didn't look 8,000 there yesterday, official attendance will include missing season ticket holders. I said when Warney moved to the away dugout he was moving closer to the way out. Time for TS to change managers.



-- Edited by gwru on Sunday 8th of December 2019 08:17:39 AM

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I fear the worst over the Christmas period injuries piling up Mattock Robertson Crooks Lindsey didn't look match fit. Manager floundering no wonder the ground empties on the 85th minute mid table looms we are going nowhere this season. Maybe Pollit saw the writing on the wall when he jumped ship.



-- Edited by TH MILLER on Sunday 8th of December 2019 09:57:38 AM

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I get that some strikers can successfully play wide (like Agard did very successfully) but Morris is an out and out target man. He looks like a fish out of water on the wing. That isnt a pop at Morris who I think is a decent player when played in his natural position. Maybe Hastie and Clarke weren't fit to start. I'd be interested to know what the logic behind that selection was. The other curious thing for me was Ladapo playing as a lone striker. In the first half he was asked to challenge for long balls and chase for scraps. That isnt his game at all. Second half with Hastie on and Smith partnering Ladapo we were much improved but by then we were chasing the game against a team that had something to hang on to. I know its easy to be an armchair manager but playing against a team low on confidence I would have thought that playing two natural wide players with Ladapo playing up top off either Smith or Morris would have been the way to go and in keeping with Warnes statement that he wanted to get the ball wide and get crosses in to the box to attack. The other thing that I want to get off my chest is how slow we are with re-starts. No quick throw ins, no quick throws out from Iversen, no quick free kicks, nobody bright and switched on even looking to show for anything quick. It's as if we had to set in formation for something we have rehearsed, which gave Rochdale time to get organised and usually ended with us turning over possession from throw ins or pumping the ball into the box for their giant keeper to catch or their number 6 to head clear. That's what I mean by us being predictable and ponderous. The lack of tempo also doesn't help the atmosphere in the ground. It was as flat as a pancake. I think its daft to call for Warne Out at this stage, but he has to get the home performances sorted or he will inevitably put himself under pressure.

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All the points you raise smiler and they are good points are down to the manager and coaching staff. Warne is a nice guy but he doesn't have the passion and desire to win, the coaching is poor, tactically we are out thought by other managers. The players are not sharp, they are slow a second slower than 80% of the teams that have visited NYS this season. Throw ins are a great example players don't know what to do at them and so we end up throwing up the line and lose most of them. My last point on his radio interview, it was honest but worrying. He stated that they tell the players we need to get the first goal and early to settle us down, because otherwise we struggle at home. That is a comment of a very poor manager, the best teams at all levels know how to play their game and be patient the manager does not great anxiety into his players with those comments. We are not good enough week in week out this is a midtable team and I think the promise of jam tomorrow may not sit well with the owners.

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People don't get me on these sites but if I'm into to something I'm not usually far away. I'd take you were I go drinking I tip them horses but not that often. My last two tips yesterday & two weeks ago both won. I'm into Roth U so I treat that same as selecting horses I don't want losers. Warney it started summer transfer window with Mcdonald & Morris no logic in signing them. Barlaser & Thompson not good enough. My problem with Clarke apart from being injury prone he's like Taylor lack of height. Team selection, formation hardly got it right. Mattock he's been off all season. Old pals act with Morris & Vassell in the side. I've never rated Crooks from day 1, that opinion hasn't changed. Hastie who played better yesterday improvement when he came on. Keep saying this home games are games to bring players through like Hinds & Lamy. Can't see much changing under Warney.

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I'm frustrated after yesterday because it was a real missed opportunity. But just to be clear I'm still a million miles away from signing up to the Warne Out, green tea and barbecues, mates club conspiracy theory, no fight in a Warney team, pick the juniors school of thought.

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We lost one nil to a peach of a shot that they will get one of a season. We could have scored half a dozen and our crosses into the box were all too near the big keeper who was decent. Its boring to keep hearing calls for PWs head and claims that junior players would come in a run rampant. We have a good manager and we are there or thereabouts.

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Don't agree. Would you see Evans Warnock run away to the away dugout. Not a manager to me Warney.

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The issue is the strength of the coaching staff Barker is not good enough but is safe because Warne loves him, his words not mine. We do not look sharp, our closing down is 1 to 1 not in packs which Rochdale did so well and the tactics are amateurish. Said it for months and months the poor quality within the coaching team will cost us 4 or 5 league places this season.

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A couple of issues mystified me yesterday. Morris starting instead of Smith was a mistake, particularly after Smudge had bagged a couple at Solihull and would have fancied his chances of adding to his tally yesterday. Secondly, the withdrawal of Olosunde for Vassell was mindblowing. We'd established ourselves in the second half and were pressing down each wing to finally give our front men some service in the box (admittedly most of which ended up in their excellent goalkeeper's hands). Dropping Ogbene back to cover right back extinguished any threat we had down the right and it coincided with Hastie becoming less effective on the left - game over. Vassell's contribution was poor yet again - personified by his inability to control a simple pass in front of the West Stand; the ball sliding under his foot for a throw in.

I'm a PW fan but I was left scratching my head yesterday. Had Crooks' header gone in instead of hitting the post in the first minutes, we could have seen that entertaining match that we so badly need at NYS - Sliding Doors!

Fortunately, results around us and our starting position in the League means that there's not much damage done. However, there are some key lessons to be learned.

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I missed this one, but highlights make Rochdale look good... our defence is absolutely shocking at the moment, especially down our right.... I fear a bad Christmas/New Year run, but hope for a miracle instead...



-- Edited by Davidedin on Tuesday 10th of December 2019 05:10:45 PM



-- Edited by Davidedin on Tuesday 10th of December 2019 05:11:10 PM

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