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Thanks for the update Glennmiller. Hope things warm up for the Millers and you!



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Well he experimented so no problem and we do not have to waste time in this silly competition. This team seem incapable of putting a string of results together so losing tonight means we may win now at home on Saturday which is what matters really.

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Any competition that has to rely on forcing you to play a certain number of players who have played a certain number of first team games probably isn't worth being in. Good luck to Donny who now have the inconvenience of playing further games in this joke of a competition. Move on...

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Good news for gwru someone who went Hinds had a decent game small crumb of comfort from which sounds like another inept performance. I will keep saying it where would we be without Woody.

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Agree we move on - but..... can we please address the following basic football techniques before the next match;

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CROSSING - PARTICULARLY FROM SET PIECES

Both were woeful tonight.

I suspect PW instructed the players not to score tonight - that would be the only reason I can think of why we were so inept in front of goal.

Heigh ho - bring on the Stanley.



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Just reading what was said on twitter. Hinds did well enough. Hastie not. Nothing up front. I'd send Barlaser Hastie Morris back to their parent clubs in January. Bring Kayode back. I'd stick with Lamy on the right. If Mattock he's still injured for Saturday Hinds at left back. Side for Accrington Iversen; Olosunde Ihiewke Robertson Hinds; Lamy Lindsay Hinds Obgene; Crooks; Smith.

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You really are a big fan of Hinds aren't you gwru?

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smiler when I 1st saw him two years ago he was at Wiles level. Hope he's come on something like him. I'm a big fan of Lamy also.

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The result matches the inconsistent nature of the team.

Fairly strong side out and get thumped 3-0. Not great whatever your view is on the competition.

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I am pretty sure now that Gwru is putting posts up to wind some up. I will take the bait and respond.

I think when Smiler said you really are a big fan of Hinds Gwru he was alluding to you putting his name in your team twice. In his team Gwru picks Olosunde and Hinds as his full backs, the same as last night. We let three goals in for the first time this season, last night... In our last league game away to Gillingham we played an experienced player in Jones at left back and didn't concede. Our defence has been the strongest point of our season. It has involved Wood in most games, somebody who you would have put out to grass a long time ago. Wood is not fit for Saturday, so if Mattock is not fit then the back four should be Olosunde, Ihiekwe, Robertson and Jones. If mattock is fit then the back four should be Jones, Ihiekwe , Robertson and Mattock. These are the players who have done the job recently.

You go on about Kayode being the second best striker in our club. Where on earth is the evidence of this. The people i have spoken to are saying Kayode is struggling a bit to make an impact in non league football but is getting valuable experience. You also claim Lamy is the best right winger at the club. Again where on earth is the evidence of this. I have just spoken to my brother who went last night ( he hasn't missed a game this season ) and he says Lamy looks a fair bit off the required grade but again the experience has done him good and is part of his development. I know you know more than all our coaches and pundits put together Gwru after seeing players in third rate cup games and fifteen minutes off the bench but evidence seems to prove Hinds, Lamy and kayode need more time to develop their games. At our club under Warne and his team they will develop their considerable talents.

There you are i have risen to the bait Gwru. I would love to hear what others think.

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I agree with you 100% Whiston.

Warne and Barker handle young players well. Wiles is a case in point. These youngsters need handling carefully, not throwing into the lions den based on promising appearances in pre-season friendlies and meaningless (effectively reserve team) cup games. Matches like last nights will have done the young players good. It is all good experience, but none of Hinds, Cooper or Kayode are anywhere near ready for the first team absent an emergency. They might be one day but not yet. Playing them before they are ready might do them mire harm than good. Lamy is a different proposition because he looks like he is capable of moments of magic, which makes him a bit of a wildcard.

It isn't untypical of gwru to want to change a team that had a 3-0 away league win and stick largely with a lineup that lost 3-0 against a Lincoln side that was a mix of first teamers and reserves. There is no sense or logic whatsoever to it, but there it is. I'm afraid with gwru it is a classic case of players who have played a few games losing their sparkle. The new kids on the block haven't had time yet to blot their copybook so they look like better options, at least until they make a mistake when they will also be binned off.





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C wrote:

The result matches the inconsistent nature of the team.

Fairly strong side out and get thumped 3-0. Not great whatever your view is on the competition.


 I think there were seven changes from the side that started at Gillingham, C, and we played three players who have a combined one league substitutes appearance between them.  I appreciate that Lincoln also fielded a weakened side.  I don't like to see any RUFC team (first-team, reserves, Juniors or Ladies) lose but last night counted for nothing apart from a run out for a few.  The convoluted rules meant we had to field a few players that I am sure Warne wouldn't have wanted to put out there.  I know I'm accused of being a happy clapper, but I didn't read anything in to the win against Donny in this comp and likewise I'm not reading anything into the defeat at Lincoln.



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I'm not putting posts on to wind nobody up. Jones Wood Mcdonald should be somewhere away warm they've had their day. Hinds if Mattock isn't fit Saturday play him he's not going to progress playing reserve games on a training ground. Same with Lamy he's the best right winger we have he just needs games to give him confidence. Our problems are plain to see no holding midfield player. Never got it right out wide all season. Up front only Smith good enough. Don't rate any of the other 3. If Kayode isn't ready get somebody in who is.

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We will win on Saturday put our best defence out I have to agree with gwru a holding midfielder is a must in the New Year the home form has to be improved if we are to mount a challenge for the top six.

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We can move on now... still a shout of a 3rd round in FA cup but Saturday is the focus, we are due a good home win.. Let's have it!!

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GlennMiller wrote:

Agree we move on - but..... can we please address the following basic football techniques before the next match;

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CROSSING - PARTICULARLY FROM SET PIECES

Both were woeful tonight.

I suspect PW instructed the players not to score tonight - that would be the only reason I can think of why we were so inept in front of goal.

Heigh ho - bring on the Stanley.


 absolutely. Awful all season and been done too many times defending set-pieces too.  



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gwru wrote:

Just reading what was said on twitter. Hinds did well enough. Hastie not. Nothing up front. I'd send Barlaser Hastie Morris back to their parent clubs in January. Bring Kayode back. I'd stick with Lamy on the right. If Mattock he's still injured for Saturday Hinds at left back. Side for Accrington Iversen; Olosunde Ihiewke Robertson Hinds; Lamy Lindsay Hinds Obgene; Crooks; Smith.


 Interesting report on the Lincs game in the Tizer by Paul Davis. 

Akeem Hinds 5/10. Another youngster learning plenty but still has some developing to do.

Julian Lamy 4/10. Never affected the game. A big chance to impress and he didn't take it. A peripheral figure.

Dan Barlaser 7/10. Rotherham's best player by a distance. Good passing and calmness in possession. Always wanted the ball and always looked to ask questions.

gwru wants Hinds and Lamy in the team for Accrington and Barlaser to be sent back to Newcastle.

I assume the second Hinds in gwru's team should be Wiles.



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gwru wrote:

Just reading what was said on twitter. Hinds did well enough. Hastie not. Nothing up front. I'd send Barlaser Hastie Morris back to their parent clubs in January. Bring Kayode back. I'd stick with Lamy on the right. If Mattock he's still injured for Saturday Hinds at left back. Side for Accrington Iversen; Olosunde Ihiewke Robertson Hinds; Lamy Lindsay Hinds Obgene; Crooks; Smith.


 Interesting report on the Lincs game in the Tizer by Paul Davis. 

Akeem Hinds 5/10. Another youngster learning plenty but still has some developing to do.

Julian Lamy 4/10. Never affected the game. A big chance to impress and he didn't take it. A peripheral figure.

Dan Barlaser 7/10. Rotherham's best player by a distance. Good passing and calmness in possession. Always wanted the ball and always looked to ask questions.

gwru wants Hinds and Lamy in the team for Accrington and Barlaser to be sent back to Newcastle.

I assume the second Hinds in gwru's team should be Wiles.


In gwru's head, the player who hasn't played league football yet is always the one who is going to be the answer/next star.  He persuades himself after two minutes of reserve team action that they are immediately going to be better than players who have experience and a track record.  Hence the rush to get players like Bailey-King, Kayode, Cooper, Hinds and Lamy in the team immediately.  

Warne knows nothing, Ronnie Moore knows nothing and presumably Paul Davis knows nothing either.  They can't pick a national hunt winner on the spot like gwru can, and they never had to make snap decisions in a steelworks.  Gwru is uniquely qualified and has a special ability to spot a player after watching them warm up.

What Warne needs to do is forget about coaching qualifications, forget whatever he learned from his experience as a professional footballer, not travel to away games and instead watch the highlights, send Breck to double check on anybody who looks half decent on You Tube, and just go with his gut.  That is the real route to success.

Tell me different.

 



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Paul Davis & Warney read from the same hymn sheet. Don't fall out of line how the powers that be want it. Get that revolving door back straight through would go Price Jones Wood McDonald Barlaser Morris Ladapo Vassell Hastie.

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Brilliant gwru. Absolutely brilliant. You wanted Ajayi through one of those doors after he had played a couple of games. Good job it was broken at that point. I would guess that Ihiekwe and Crooks are both worth money if they were for sale in January and they were revolving door candidates for you not very long ago. Older experienced players add value even if they arent in the team every week. Look at the insight a couple of weeks ago into how Jones helps Olosunde learn and improve. Look at how 38 year old Jagielka is adding value at the Blades and he hasn't started a game yet. Listen to how Wood talked Hinds through the game against Man Utd kids (you could hear it because there was nobody in the ground). We arent dealing with fantasy football where you bring players in and move them out electronically. This is the real world where players have periods of good/bad form, where you work with them to improve them, where things like having 'a good group' really matters because they are humans who spend many hours a week together. Do us all a favour pal and dont bother putting yourself through the torture of watching our home game this afternoon. Give us your opinion later after you've seen the highlights. Better still, dont even bother doing that.

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