personally, there is very little to choose in practical terms between us and them in every department.
they are likely to get relegated and in terms of very recent history on and off the pitch, I wouldn't swap being the manager of Rotherham for Barnsley. Better to stay at Rotherham where there is more chance of present success than Barnsley where it seems likely the only way is down and the sack this season
I have been watching Rotherham since I was two years old. Generations of my family before me were Rotherham supporters. I have a relative who I watched play over 300 games for the club. I couldnt love the club much more than I do. I'm sure a lot of us feel the same way. But i also have a family to support If i was manager of RUFC and someone offered me double the money to manage elsewhere I would take it while it was there. I would also be aware that three defeats in a row and people like you Derby would be calling for my head. Moving for those reasons wouldn't mean i would love RUFC any less.
The only constant at our club, or any other club for that matter, is the fans. Whether it totals 200 or 20,000, its the fans who are the club. Chairmen, managers, players, coaches all come and go.
The fans are loyal but with out the proper people running the club we will end up like Bury. Look what happened to us when Boothy went I couldn't run a chip shop never mind a club like Rotherham. I will never knock people like Ken Booth Tony Stewart for the time and money they have put into the club. We would not have a football team to support without them.
I just back the club, put money through the turnstiles have since 1965, got 2 no's on Millers mayday. I do it by choice. I'm not into family trees. I look forward. My opinion hope there's truth in the Warney/Barnsley rumour. Money we get for him get Coughlan. Take Wood with him. Can't see no positives playing him. Sooner see Cooper brought through. Alot of Warney's formations/team selections can't see positives in them. See if Lamy is involved today, he was the best winger I've seen for quite a while here.
Talk us through Lamy's contribution today gwru. Is there any truth in the rumour that you're transferring your allegencies to Barnsley? I'm happy to pay your train fare!
If Warne wants to have a crack at the dingles job so be it. He's never actually been in a position where he has had cash so maybe with the ability to invest he could do well. They could also get the guy back that left them for Leeds as he had them rocking for a while (Heckingbottom?) As for the stuck records on here I think its best to simply ignore them as they have nothing to offer. I said it the last time we had trolls too - no air time will see them disappear soon enough.
Warney he had more money here than the vast majority of clubs in this league. He's got the final say on signings. He's not got it when it comes to signing players never will have. Evans I know he had the revolving door but in the end he got us up twice & kept us up in the championship once. I can't see him managing at any club any good when he leaves here will only be one way. What Santa gets. The sack!
I think i am banging my head against a brick wall here. I was average at maths but surely when £4.3 million goes out and you only invest around £800k back on players in, surely he has had one of the worst budgets. Tell me different Gwru as you say.
Where the heck do you get those figures from Gwru. Its certainly not from the last balance sheet which shows figures for the last time we were in this division. Our turnover in our promotion season was 9.96 million. Our TOTAL wage bill was 5.62 million and we had an operating loss of £510k. The previous season we were in the championship. Balance sheet up to june 2017 shows we had a turnover of 12.9 million and a wage bill of 7.68 million. Our wage bill will be near to the 5.62 million like the last time we were in this division. Our commercial income was £4.8m and we got£2.2m of central distribution money. I think we should get similar figures this time around. Match and season tickets were at 2.2m. Again i would expect a similar figure.
Smiler sorry please never make the statement of people like me about me every again, it is highly insulting and offensive. You do not know me at all, we have never met or interacted in any way except this site. Now i have not asked for warne to be sacked, so get your facts straight. I do believe barker should leave he is not a good enough number 2 in my opinion. We have awful tactics and no idea how to get the best from a squad built by this management team. I have said for a long time warne will not be our manager on 1st january 2020 to be honest i think saying within 1 week of the start of January would be more likely. Lastly i am not doubting your passion for our club but never assume your personal and family history of a fan makes you special or unique, it will be no surprise to you that mine is similar.
Smiler sorry please never make the statement of people like me about me every again, it is highly insulting and offensive. You do not know me at all, we have never met or interacted in any way except this site. Now i have not asked for warne to be sacked, so get your facts straight. I do believe barker should leave he is not a good enough number 2 in my opinion. We have awful tactics and no idea how to get the best from a squad built by this management team. I have said for a long time warne will not be our manager on 1st january 2020 to be honest i think saying within 1 week of the start of January would be more likely. Lastly i am not doubting your passion for our club but never assume your personal and family history of a fan makes you special or unique, it will be no surprise to you that mine is similar.
That is quite a reaction Derby.
Firstly, if you read what I posted previously I made it absolutely clear already that I know that all of us probably have the same passion for the club.
After the Tranmere game (which we didn't lose) you described Warne virtually word for word as being totally clueless and gutless, and you weren't talking about that one game you were talking generally. That was your description of a bloke you are ready to accuse of a lack of loyalty before he has even gone. On the basis of those and other posts I did suspect (I admit I stretched to this conclusion) that you would be in favour of Warne leaving if we had a run of defeats.
If you are telling me that if we lost at Ipswich and against Wycombe to make it three defeats in a row you would still be in favour of keeping Warne and replacing Barker (so keeping a clueless and gutless manager but giving him on the job training and/or support from a different coach) then please say so, and I will take you at your word and without any hesitation will apologise to you for reading you wrong.
Even if I have read you wrong, we both know that there would be a massive move from supporters to put Stewart under pressure to sack Warne if we did lose three in a row so my general point stands. There is no loyalty from supporters in general towards managers so it is disingenuous of supporters to expect it the other way. That doesn't mean he is wrong to want players to love the club they play for. It is possible to love a club but understand that for very good reasons you sometimes have to move on.
-- Edited by smiler on Monday 21st of October 2019 11:59:13 AM
Smiler sorry please never make the statement of people like me about me every again, it is highly insulting and offensive. You do not know me at all, we have never met or interacted in any way except this site. Now i have not asked for warne to be sacked, so get your facts straight. I do believe barker should leave he is not a good enough number 2 in my opinion. We have awful tactics and no idea how to get the best from a squad built by this management team. I have said for a long time warne will not be our manager on 1st january 2020 to be honest i think saying within 1 week of the start of January would be more likely. Lastly i am not doubting your passion for our club but never assume your personal and family history of a fan makes you special or unique, it will be no surprise to you that mine is similar.
That is quite a reaction Derby.
Firstly, if you read what I posted previously I made it absolutely clear already that I know that all of us probably have the same passion for the club.
After the Tranmere game (which we didn't lose) you described Warne virtually word for word as being totally clueless and gutless, and you weren't talking about that one game you were talking generally. That was your description of a bloke you are ready to accuse of a lack of loyalty before he has even gone. On the basis of those and other posts I did suspect (I admit I stretched to this conclusion) that you would be in favour of Warne leaving if we had a run of defeats.
If you are telling me that if we lost at Ipswich and against Wycombe to make it three defeats in a row you would still be in favour of keeping Warne and replacing Barker (so keeping a clueless and gutless manager but giving him on the job training and/or support from a different coach) then please say so, and I will take you at your word and without any hesitation will apologise to you for reading you wrong.
Even if I have read you wrong, we both know that there would be a massive move from supporters to put Stewart under pressure to sack Warne if we did lose three in a row so my general point stands. There is no loyalty from supporters in general towards managers so it is disingenuous of supporters to expect it the other way. That doesn't mean he is wrong to want players to love the club they play for. It is possible to love a club but understand that for very good reasons you sometimes have to move on.
-- Edited by smiler on Monday 21st of October 2019 11:59:13 AM
Since it is half-term and I have some time on my hands Derby I have had a look at a few of your previous posts.
I can't see that you have ever said 'Warne Out'. I can see plenty of occasions when you have said that he is inept, clueless, a coward etc and you have made it crystal clear that you do not rate him at all and would prefer he was not the manager.
So you haven't called for his sacking but are very critical of him and would prefer he wasn't here.
Smiler sorry please never make the statement of people like me about me every again, it is highly insulting and offensive. You do not know me at all, we have never met or interacted in any way except this site. Now i have not asked for warne to be sacked, so get your facts straight. I do believe barker should leave he is not a good enough number 2 in my opinion. We have awful tactics and no idea how to get the best from a squad built by this management team. I have said for a long time warne will not be our manager on 1st january 2020 to be honest i think saying within 1 week of the start of January would be more likely. Lastly i am not doubting your passion for our club but never assume your personal and family history of a fan makes you special or unique, it will be no surprise to you that mine is similar.
The penny has just dropped with me concerning what you were apparently offended by Derby. As you rightly say, apart from what you put on here I don't know you from Adam. I am sure you are a thoroughly decent person. Very obviously, when I said 'people like you' I meant people who don't rate Warne and don't want him here as manager. I don't understand why you would be insulted or offended by that - highly or otherwise. As per my other posts this morning, you haven't exactly made any secret of your feelings about Warne and his managerial ability or lack thereof.
