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What did we think of that?

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I’m not sure why Ladapo isn’t convincing anyone. I think he’s the best striker at the club. Top goal scorer and he will easily finish the top scorer.

I think we are too accustomed to strikers who don’t score but are good at running channels. Ladapo was by no means great today but he carries more of a threat than Smith and Vassell.

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If you haven't got the tools you can't do the job. Warney had the chance again to add what's missing but didn't. Only Wiles & Lindsay good enough in midfield. Only Smith good enough still up front. Oh well we face JCH away next week who scored again yesterday. See then if Johno he's got back to his strong & direct style of play. I'm not saying he will have. No idea.

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One area that is a concern is how slowly we move the ball from one side to the other and the amount of balls we play behind players. We have lost the player than can switch play with a diagonal ball since vaulks has gone.i also agree with David freddie is a 18 yd box forward not a high ball forward back to goal forward. We do not seem to know how to maximise the strengths of the individual players, wiles is no winger and his set pieces make fordes look good. An old experienced coach is needed on the training field and that bench, it is so obvious someone for the others to learn from.

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Need a clean sweep. Warney ect... not working. Ladapo he's a waste of money. Not our type of player. No directness in his play. Yesterday should have played Smith loan striker. Lamy Lindsay Barlaser Wiles Hastie across the middle.



-- Edited by gwru on Sunday 22nd of September 2019 10:45:22 AM

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For all that he had his qualities, my memory is that Vaulks was good at long diagonal passes into the crowd. I agree though that we could have moved the ball more quickly at times yesterday. I also agree that in a tight game like that set pieces can be important and our delivery wasn't good yesterday (from Hastie as well as Wiles, and we have seen before that Hastie in particular is capable of better).

After the Sunderland game I found it annoying looking at their message boards that the general tone was that they must have played really badly not to have beaten us. We got very little credit for the fact that we actually played well. It smacked a bit of arrogance and a bit of a Billy Big B's mentality. I wonder if we are falling into the same trap.

There are always two teams on the pitch. Shrewsbury (who lest we forget finished above us in our last promotion season and won at our ground) have some good players, were very disciplined, defended very well and made it very difficult for us. They played the ref to his limits when it came to slowing the game down which was cynical but to be expected. They also carried a bit of a threat on the break. It made for frustrating viewing and of course we have to think about how to do better against those tactics because other teams will come and do the same, but you do sometimes have to give credit to the opposition.

I think Brad does have a point - we aren't so Massive yet that we can just expect as supporters that we are going to roll teams like Shrewsbury over. I would say we were the better side yesterday but couldn't get the all important breakthrough (we need to work on how to break sides down better), and Shrewsbury's good defending and organisation was at least part of the reason for that.

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Can't believe Warney love-in on here. Here's a manager whose gone to the away dugout so he doesn't get aggro from the majority of the home fans. Should be gone for some of his signings this summer especially Mcdonald. Phil Parkinson as far as I know hasn't got a club. Won't get a better manager than that at this level. TS may as well change it now while the season is still alive.

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Agree about how you shouldn’t just expect a win. I’ve seen people moan at Shrews style but we did that for 90 per cent of last season.

What I can’t seem to grasp is how negative the subs have become under Warne. Last time in this division he was very positive so why change? The decision to take Hastie off for Macdonald basically killed off any hope of taking three points. And that’s not Macdonald’s fault either he’s a defensive midfielder so you can only expect so much.

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Hastie looked completely spent when he came off. We didnt change formation. MacDonald played centrally and Crooks moved wide so it wasnt negative in terms of the formation. The issue really is whether Hastie had any more left in him. To be honest, Hastie didnt make much of an impression at any point in the game. Hes been great so far for us but yesterday it wasnt happening for him. If he is fit to play I might have thrown Lamy on as a bit of a late wild card.

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Some person on mm has worked it out Kenny Jacket will be sacked at Portsmouth and Warney will get the job there is a god.

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TH MILLER wrote:

Some person on mm has worked it out Kenny Jacket will be sacked at Portsmouth and Warney will get the job there is a god.


 It's Sunday, have a day off you ****!!



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They should ban using bad language on a Sunday you are sending my beer flat.

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ladapo is an in the box striker so to perform to his potential which i believe he has loads. he needs the service. crosses coming in from either wing to morris smith for them to knock on to him at the moment he ix getting this either down to formation or players or both for me its my opinion ogebene is back thr formation has to be 4 1 3 2 with starting 11 crooks is at the moment a liability dont get me wrong is a good player but too many wayward passes macdonald sub bench iverson mattock robertson ithiekwe olosonde lindsay dm ogbene lw wiles or barlaser am hastie rw ladapo morris or smith

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Don't agree. Ladapo he's a pretender there's no fight in him. Smith only striker we've got. McDonald if he was horse he'd be in a field hunting about for retired horses.

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Smiler Crooks did go wide you are right but how long has he been a wide player? Square peg in a round hole.

If Hastie isn’t up to lasting 90 minutes then we need to be looking into why he can’t especially after a full pre season with Rangers and nearly a month with us.

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C, Hastie might have done a full pre season but he didnt play any competitive football until he came to us. Yesterday was his third game in a week and we got 80 minutes out of him in testing conditions. Crooks isn't a natural on the left I agree, but I am not sure what the other options were. I said this a couple of weeks ago - one of the problems with picking up a couple of injuries is that other players get rushed back or put in before they are ready, putting them at risk of picking up further niggles, and it can become a vicious circle. That might be what happened with Ogbene. He played 75 minutes a couple of days after he joined us. Maybe he wasnt ready for that but it was forced by Vassell going off after 15 against Tranmere. Perhaps that explains a reluctance to throw Lamy on, and maybe he was only on the bench to make numbers up and get him involved. I dont know. Unless someone asks the manager none of us do and we are guessing.

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Truth is Warney isn't a manager. Proved it if you can't take the criticism like moving dugouts don't take the job. Tell me different.

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And you are a manager?

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TC have you seen us this season? I'm not getting paid to be a manager. We are so predictable. Timid like the manager.

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Have you ever spoken to Paul Warne? I have on several occasions. Knowledgeable yes. Well spoken yes. A manager, yes.

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Timid? Not in the slightest.

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