If we carry on playing like this and he doesn't change it then Warne is going to feel the heat l. I'm not anti Warne far from it I put my opinion on how I watched a game.
I can't see where the goals.are coming from out goal.was down to a mistake from donny yes
Change it Warne please
their keeper had no saves to make all game, we had pressure but created few clear cut chances
Said it before no excuses now with this squad, the club have given a great group of players to warne and barker at the moment it is more like corbett and barker
whiston01 should have gone with my side. Wood McDonald Crooks should be nowhere near the side. Smirh is better than Morris & Ladapo put together. We have two left backs fit but won't start then. Question could Thompson play holding midfield cause I can't see who can.
A game of two distinct halves. First half we dominated without threatening their goal too often. But Donny were dire and it looked as if they'd be overrun in the second half. Hastie was suberb - both attacking and defending. We had control of midfield and my only criticism was that we tried to over complicate it on occasions. Whatever happened in the changing rooms at half time changed the game completely. Donny came out with energy and desire and we hardly got a foot on the ball. Lindsay was absolutely knackered after 50 minutes and should have been subbed before they scored. The replacement of Hastie with Mattock was mystifying - unless he was injured. It took away our only credible threat. Morris faded badly and Smith should have been on much earlier - although when he arrived he looked a shadow of player he was last season. I'm not convinced by MacDonald who looks a yard off the pace and indecisive in possession.
The second half was the poorest I've seen us play for some time. Kicking towards the 3500 Millers faithful it should have been a joy to watch but it turned into a nightmare. I was concerned at PW's lack of awareness in the substitutions he made and at the lack of fitness, desire and energy in the side in the second half. D minus on his report card today I afraid.
No complaints regarding the result. It could and probably should have been 3 or 4-1.
A game of two distinct halves. First half we dominated without threatening their goal too often. But Donny were dire and it looked as if they'd be overrun in the second half. Hastie was suberb - both attacking and defending. We had control of midfield and my only criticism was that we tried to over complicate it on occasions. Whatever happened in the changing rooms at half time changed the game completely. Donny came out with energy and desire and we hardly got a foot on the ball. Lindsay was absolutely knackered after 50 minutes and should have been subbed before they scored. The replacement of Hastie with Mattock was mystifying - unless he was injured. It took away our only credible threat. Morris faded badly and Smith should have been on much earlier - although when he arrived he looked a shadow of player he was last season. I'm not convinced by MacDonald who looks a yard off the pace and indecisive in possession.
The second half was the poorest I've seen us play for some time. Kicking towards the 3500 Millers faithful it should have been a joy to watch but it turned into a nightmare. I was concerned at PW's lack of awareness in the substitutions he made and at the lack of fitness, desire and energy in the side in the second half. D minus on his report card today I afraid.
No complaints regarding the result. It could and probably should have been 3 or 4-1.
I told you on Thursday we would lose It feels as if any chance of promotion has gone already. Bolton next we have got no chance against them the season is just starting for them. From what I have read from those who went 2nd half we camped in our own penalty area again do we ever learn. I am afraid the natives are getting restless I can see the crowd turning on the manager next week. I have seen this situation many times over years we need an experienced manager to come in and sort it out. There is only one person suited to do it get Phil Parkinson in.
Just seen the highlights got to admit there pen' looked a home pen' to me. Couldn't see much wrong there. But we are paying for poor recruitment not just this window. No research done into the players we sign. Crooks when I 1st saw him come on for us could see he wasn't a footballer, that hasn't changed. At the moment no established left back starting. No holding midfield player. Only Smith still good enough up front that's when he's played up front. Can't see it changing under Warney. Already said he's had more money to spend than nearly every manager in league 1 but no good just getting your old mates in & good human beings. As long as they aren't breaking the law ability is the only thing to go on.
Have to agree that McDonald looks very poor and weak. PW needs to react better when opposition changes strategy. Rubbish 2nd half - Smith should have been on after an hour. Also I struggled to identify our formation - was Morris in midfield???
This season remindes me of when Mick Harford was manager on paper fetched one or two decent players but went into a run no matter what he did nothing worked. We had to change it. I think we are going into one of those runs hang onto your hats it's going to be a bumpy ride. Why are players getting injured in training something is wrong there. Bit of news to cheer us up Clarke Harris scored a brace today.
Formation is obvious 433 with the ball and 451 without it. Morris was outstanding he won more headers in the first half than smith won all of last season. Our best two players are not match fit, but to be honest none of our team look match fit and certainly struggle to last 90 mins. I will stick up for macdonald he was brilliant in the holding role for 60 mins, he went off and we were overrun in midfield. Remember the role of that position is breakup play and pass to someone else, he did that very well. The players are not the issue it is the shocking excuse for coaches at the club, a blind man can see it.
I couldn't go yesterday for personal reasons but listened to the commentary and have seen and heard the post-match interviews.
The game seemed to tip away from us on the hour mark. It sounded like we were value for the half time lead and that for a spell early in the second half we were on top and threatening to get a second, but then lost all of the momentum.
I don't believe for one second that we made a conscious decision to defend our own box for half an hour. The question is why did we lose our grip on the game? You have to give credit to the opposition, but we did the same thing against Tranmere and Wednesday so it is a concern.
One concern would be that in both games we aren't scoring goals when we are on top, and I think it is fair comment to say that we aren't really creating a lot of chances from open play even when we have spells of pressure.
We are also chopping and changing the side and the formation a lot because of new arrivals, some bad luck with injuries and then players coming in who aren't match fit enough to play a full game (Hastie and Morris yesterday being examples), so we aren't getting any rhythm going. That can become a vicious circle if you're not careful.
The most concerning thing for me is that we seem to lack confidence. In patches I have seen what we could be capable of and I still believe that we have what it takes to have a successful season, but there are times when you need to recognise what is happening and do something to influence it. Easier said than done but on paper we have the personnel to do it. Certainly against Tranmere we seemed to lose our grip on the game as a collective and it sounded like the same happened yesterday.
Sunderland away will be tough so a win against Bolton becomes important to get us back on track. Not must win at this stage of the season, but important all the same just to restore some belief.
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Just watched extended highlights. Hastie once match sharp looks like he'll be a handful on the left, good crosser of the ball. At least one of those headed chances from corners for us in the 1st half should have been taken. Midfield is a problem for us. Mcdonald he's not fit enough, at his age he won't get it back. I've never rated Crooks. Is this too simple play players in their best position when they are available. Got to be 4-5-1 so we don't get overrun in midfield. Smith lone striker.
First half we played really well, and as others have said, Hastie looks a fantastic player. I assume Warne took him off because he tired, same with Morris who had his best game by far in a Millers shirt - we didn't look anywhere near as good once they both went off.
I would have put Smith on for Ladapo after 50 mins or so as you could see they were getting into the game. For me Ladapo is not doing it, maybe he needs a goal, but his touches are not coming off and if he isn't scoring (which he's not) he's not contributing anything.
If we'd got the second goal before their first we'd have won it. It's nearly working but not quite at the moment, I think we have a great set of players now, just need to find the best way of getting them playing for 95 mins and creating more chances. I'd like to see Hastie and Ogbene both play, I think that would create chances we're missing (and maybe help Ladapo look better if he can play as an out and out striker)
In every game I've seen so far (most of them) we look good for the majority of the game - Warne needs to work out how to use his subs in a way that improves the team when they come on. We ought to be practicing changes and players should know what to do when he brings them on - it should be pre planned. At the moment his substitutions are not working and look random & defensive.
Finally, having seen it on telly, there is NO WAY IN ******* HELL that was a penalty... but that's just the way it is for us as long as I can remember....
If we'd got the second goal before their first we'd have won it. It's nearly working but not quite at the moment, I think we have a great set of players now, just need to find the best way of getting them playing for 95 mins and creating more chances. I'd like to see Hastie and Ogbene both play, I think that would create chances we're missing (and maybe help Ladapo look better if he can play as an out and out striker)
I agree with playing both Hastie and Ogbene. Ladapo is a box striker and would be much more effective with better service and assistance from either Smith or Morris in a 4-4-2 formation. Hastie showed he has the ability to defend, not sure about Ogbene, but both would need to put a shift in with this formation. Their first games would suggest that they don't yet have the stamina.
Although I thought PW was naive with his substitutions and game management yesterday, it's still early days with a virtual brand new squad and everyone, including the manager and the coaching staff are learning. It's much too early to be talking about replacing PW and just smacks of the 'instant success' syndrome that many football fans seem to suffer from these days. The grass is not always greener...........!!
With the players we've got only formation we can is 4-5-1 otherwise we'll be outnumbered in midfield. To play 4-4-2 wide men have to tuck in support their full backs. Our wingers are wingers not wide midfield players. But I don't know anything. There's only Smith can play the lone striker. Ladapo was a waste of money for us cause he's a touch player. We can't play him in that role. But we don't think before we put the money down.
Excellent comments there Glenn. I'll give them a few more games before getting my critical hat out but it is already clear there are very few "winners" in this squad. Just as an aside a few us on here were pushing for Gareth Ainsworth before cheap cheap Warne and serial relegation expert Barker were appointed. Wycombe are top of our league on allegedly the second lowest budget. Doubt Ainsworth would find Rotherham an attractive proposition now. Opportunity missed Mr Chairman !
