I feel for bury small.club trying to survive in a sport overload area football and rugby league
Football fans have a spoilt choice who.to support with 5 prem clubs and championship.clubs to keep a decent fan base.
Bolton on the other hand have been twisting and turning to avoid sanctions so far only have 12pts deduction like bury.
Yet players and staff have gone unpaid many times.
If that had been us or other less fashionable sides. We would have the book thrown at us
Yet Bolton one the founding teams yet again.
It's not nice to see a club fail but Bolton created own mess.
2 of the relegated teams might have already been decided. I see no punishment so far for the game Bolton did not play at the end of last season surely that should mean at ĺeast another 3 points dedùction. As you quite rightly say the League will bend over backwards for some teams. Still have sympathy for the genuine supportés of both clubs we were in that position a few years ago.
People can blame the EFL all they like but it wasn’t them that got these two clubs into serious debt.
However the EFL need to get a grip on the situation with calling games off, it’s unfair on other clubs. If it happens again they seriously need to consider removing them from the division.
People can blame the EFL all they like but it wasn’t them that got these two clubs into serious debt.
However the EFL need to get a grip on the situation with calling games off, it’s unfair on other clubs. If it happens again they seriously need to consider removing them from the division.
Totally agree C the efl aren't to blame but perhaps their of the rules have allowed this to happen..
The minute a team can't.pay wages points deducted straight away
I am sure over the next week both Boltons and Burys fate's will be sealed one way or another, ongoing fixture postponements will force the EFL to make a decision.
Also the EFL need to address Bolton's extra points deduction in relation to not fulfilling there fixtures last season.
Whilst i dont want another teams fans to have no club, the facts are that both Bolton and Bury are so close to Liquidation, and if this happens the football club ceases to exist, and they have to start again further down the league pyramid.
Some Bolton players haven't been paid for 20 weeks, that's 5 months!!!, how are the PFA and the EFL allowing this to happen.
-- Edited by WorcesterMiller on Wednesday 31st of July 2019 12:24:34 PM
The EFL can take some responsibility for the Bolton situation and they need investigating for deeming Ken Anderson a fit and proper owner, despite the fact that he'd been banned from becoming a company director for seven years after a failed previous venture.
Bury's game against the Owls cancelled tonight as is their home game on Saturday against Gillingham. Their next game after that is against the Millers - a week tonight. Chances are it won't go ahead but we will be informed by this Thursday apparently. Not looking good for Bury.
The problem is overspending. Two seasons ago we beat Bury 3-2 at home in League One. They had a big name manager in Lee Clark and had some players in their side who were on more money than ours were. Jermaine Beckford as an example. I think Chris Maguire was also playing. And Rohan Ince who they had taken from Brighton. Their average gate that season was under 4000. Half what ours was. Its madness that clubs spend more than 100% of revenue, and 150% or more in some cases, on wages alone. It just shouldn't be allowed to happen. Who is to blame for it? Not the players - they will take as much as they can get and why wouldn't they? Bad owners for one. The football authorities for letting it happen for another without better oversight and diligence. Thirdly (and at the risk of kicking Bury supporters when they are down) supporters in general, who are so desperate for success on the pitch that they implore their clubs to join the rat race and gamble it all. They (we) have to take a bit of responsibility.
Another game off for Bury and our game against them in serious doubt.
I feel for the Bury fans but enough is enough, that has to be them done now and out of the division.
Good point from Smiler about the players they’ve had in the past few years, at the time you thought how on earth can Bury afford all them, it wasn’t the EFL signing those players on contracts they couldn’t afford.
The ramifications of Bolton's dilemma are not just confined to the management, players and fans of that club. Anyone recall us chasing Oztumer from Walsall last season but being outbid/out-waged by Bolton? Well, he has just left them - no doubt as a result of not being paid for the past few months. So Bolton buy a player who they obviously couldn't afford - not sure about the legality of this - and as a result Rotherham were deprived of a player who may well have helped us to fend off relegation from the Championship. He had scored 30 goals in 86 appearances for Walsall. This is not the first time Bolton have had an 'illegal' impact on our relegation from the Championship.
BTW, Oztumer has joined Charlton where he spent 8 years on their books as a youth player.
They might have a point, but ultimately it's their responsibility to fulfil fixtures and more their own fault than anyone elses that they are in this mess. You cant let clubs decide unilaterally to postpone matches. Middle of last week the way was re-opened for the sale to new owners that was injuncted at the last minute to actually go ahead. Not happened yet. It is indeed a shambles.
