Remember our tea of warne and scott have identified a player they really want, they have made a bid of £150k for him, it is stated that £200k would get him, we are then told we have no further interest. So how are we as fans supposed to look at that really? based on the information we have (the club always have the option to tell the fans more), one of our top targets we are unwilling to spend £50k on, the cars in the NYS car park cost more that £50k for god-sake. If you honestly think that we are going to build a squad that can compete in the top half of league 1 with that attitude, you live on planet zog !!!
17th june tomorrow, it was PW that said he wanted the business done early, it was PW that said he wanted the squad together before Germany trip, this time table is set by PW not us
I think you must be a religious man as you have too much blind faith
I'm with TH MILLER. No fun under Warney. Last season we had the stopping up players but no Right back good enough. Only winger we had good enough was Williams. I'd have brought Purrington back in January & played Mattock in front of him. Newell no b*ll*cks. Now we start again. Vaulks & Ajayi will be gone. Again tell me if I've got it wrong. Two players we have signed for next season. Warney says will be ok in the dressing room. But they haven't played between them 1st team football in 3 years. Know I've said that before but it's a risk. I take risks but It's calculated. Alarm bells ring for me: Macdonald. Couldn't even get on the bench at Wigan who only stopped up cause we didn't give ourselves a chance of stopping up. Another mates signing same as Potter.
-- Edited by gwru on Sunday 16th of June 2019 06:42:07 PM
-- Edited by gwru on Sunday 16th of June 2019 07:04:49 PM
I have been pulled down for getting a bit impatient about where we are at this present moment in time not to say anything until mid August to late then the dye has been cast for the season. Tumble weed is blowing down the streets of NYS ìs there anybody alive out theré lets se action.
We see a fraction of what goes on. Understandably we want to know everything but the nature of the beast is such that we can be told about 5% of what goes on. We have signed two players. Fewer than some but more than most. The market hasn't really started moving yet. Better to sign the right players than the first players we can. Where criticism is merited fair enough, but there are too many people who never wanted Warne because he isn't Evan's or Warnock and who can't wait to have a pop at every opportunity. Relax a bit, and let's see how the summer pans out - that's what I think.
I wont be posting any more boys and girls. Theres a loud minority on here who moan endlessly about the same things at every opportunity. It's become disheartening and frankly I'm starting to find it a bit boring. Like Joe Newell, I probably need a change of scenery. I hope the site thrives and I wish you all well. Get behind the team and let's hope for a good season. At the end of the day we all want to see our team do well.
Sorry, (edit) should be on the other side of the board if it can be moved. Cheers.
-- Edited by smiler on Sunday 16th of June 2019 10:29:48 PM
-- Edited by smiler on Sunday 16th of June 2019 10:50:27 PM
Theres not much point carrying on doing something as a hobby if you're not enjoying it, is there? I'm always happy to debate. I think you've seen that over the last couple of years. In fact I wish there was more debate. You and I don't always agree but i didn't actually have you in mind with my earlier post because you don't post all that often, and it's a shame that you had to have that unnecessary little dig. I've got bored with reading the same stuff over and over again. That's how I feel, rightly or wrongly. It's that simple. No toys or pram here. I'm sure the site will manage fine without me and I hope you continue to enjoy it.
smiler don't go. You are one of the best posters on either of these sites. You don't dictate. I actually agree with you. Wait till we get the Vaulks money then get the players in good enough. No point getting inferior players now. Ajayi & Purrington will be gone also so more funds to add to the budget. I'm willing to give the two players a chance we've brought in so far for next season. People have got to realise money made from selling players won't all go on bringing new players in. Need x amount of money to run the club. New York stadium & all the day to day business there doesn't pay for itself.
It's harder than ever now to get the players you want in. To get the signings over the line.There will be more clubs than us after the same player. You've got to sell the club, the ambitions. Like it or not agents have to be dealt with. It's not like the old days even when Ronnie Moore was manager the 1st time. Agents then didn't have the foothold they have now in the game. At our level there was no head of recruitment.
We seem to be showing interest in Connor Jennings and Curtis Tilt might be spending transfer money. I know one or two of you on here are having a go at me because I am having a good moan I just want to see us moving forward. Saw Jennings play in play offs might be ok know nothing about Tilt my guess is a replacement for Ajahi. The last 6 weeks have been negative ĺack of information making it worse looks as if it is getting to one or two of us keep the faith being a Miller is not an easy ride.
smiler do not go, stick to your guns and make your points. I do agree with you there is a lot we do not know, but what we do know and we are told is a concern to me and a lot of others that are a little cynical at heart. I am not PW biggest fan, I think he likes to be surrounded by his friends and cannot deal with difficult people very well, david ball and purrington are two examples. I think he is an intelligent man I think he cares about the club, but i also think he will sacrifice his principles to fall in line with the owners strange ways of building a team. I think he needs a more experience coach alongside him but I will support him whilst he is the manager, lastly i will also highlight where I think he is wrong or contradicts himself. I can honestly tell you, i love this club as much as he does, i am sure you do too.
The lad from ross county is one example letting vaulks go for £1.5m to Cardiff is an absolute disgrace, in the modern game to let a player like that go for half what he is worth is criminal. For me Paul Douglas has to leave the club, we need a much better CEO type person at the club, he fails to close deal after deal and sells our assets for nothing. If TS was the great businessman, he has to see this, lots of successful businessmen make errors and lose the touch, TS is not infallible I think his words and actions do not seem aligned at the moment.
The bottom line is we have lost 13 players since the end of the season and brought in 2. As GWRU says, these 2 players haven't played much football in the last 2 seasons if any. We are about to lose our best player for nothing and fail to spend the annual clothing allowance for the Stewarts to get a player that is one of our main targets for the summer. We do not have a goalkeeper at the club that is even league 2 standard, we have no goal scorer at the club. We have 3 forwards out of 4 that have spent the last two seasons injured. We have at least 2 more players about to leave in yates and Purrington, that latter is a disgraceful decision and removes all cover and competition for the left back position. Remember we have lost newell as well, so the lack of natural left footers is a worry.
Warne talks about 6 players coming in, that is all that means we will be 7 !!!!!! players down on last season, how can anyone say that we are building for the future, we know that last season the owners extracted a minimum of £5m revenue to cover previous investment (their club they are allowed to), we now see us slashing our wage budget and playing squad to levels lower than we had the last time we were in this division, I will bet you now there will be games this season where our bench is not full even with kids.
This is not a work in progress project, this is a cost slashing, ticking over project. Slash the costs and try and stay up in league 1 and unless we see some big signings and a squad with depth, you will not convince me otherwise.
Agree with everything you have said derbymiller I am hoping it's not true better off letting him run his contract down sooner him go for nothing at the end of next season.
Where's this Vaulks for £1.5m story come from? If it is true It's an absolute disgrace but so so so typical of RUFC.
Firstly - if anyone thinks I'm negative or a moaner - need to read my posts over the years.
I say what I see and read, like others have said, this is a good site and we all want the same thing, to see a successful team and enjoy being a Miller, so please no-one leave or get at each other.
I agree Brad, this is typical if it is £1.5M for Vaulks, and it's another reason why we get frustrated and vent our feelings on here... but EVEN if we have sold for £1.5M, it just makes the loss of the target man for £50k even harder to take. Barnsley would have got £4M+ for Vaulks for no other reason than they have better people dealing with transfers... and if they wanted a player for £150k, they would have laughed away the extra £50k. (as would the majority of League 2 clubs I'd suggest, let alone a side wanting to compete in League 1)
I realise the club have to deal with things, and we only know what we read, or see it after the event, but as Derby said, the club communication should be better and give us a clear view of what is going on and proper reasons why things don't happen.. All I've seen recently is talk about things being difficult and taking time ... not inspiring at all...
I said it at the beginning of last season, and again after the disaster that was January... the transfer dealings we see at the moment are no better than when the Booths were in charge... sell cheap and spend next to nothing.....
I'm not moaning - I'm frustrated. I want to look forward to a season and games where I enjoy being a Miller, not constantly feel let down and see opportunities missed. (like the last two seasons in the Championship, which would have taken so little relatively speaking to keep us there...)
I love my club and already have my season ticket paid in full - I'd just love to see us doing things right for once when it comes to players in and out.... and believe we are going forwards and not just 'existing'.
rant over... lol
-- Edited by Davidedin on Monday 17th of June 2019 03:51:54 PM
Said all along the stewarts are taking their money back as is there right but at least be honest.
In regards vaulks 1.5 was the least I expected. But what counts is how much will be for transfers.)
Derby makes a good point about the midfielder from Ross County.
It’s obvious Warne and Scott rate him, it’s not all that often we bid for players so why is fifty grand an issue with a potential of £2 million plus coming in for Vaulks.
Wish the chairman would back the manager for a change he’s proven he deserves it.
I'd rather keep him for the remaining year of his contract which may give us a greater chance of success in the third tier & £8m if we win promotion, well worth the risk.
What gets me is that other similar sized clubs to us, Posh, Barnsley etc can command much much higher fees for their saleable players than we can & that really rankles with me TBH. £1.5m for Vaulks is derisory in my view & there's a real fear that we'll lose Semi for a similar price or less, such is the lack of negotiating skills of Stewart & co.
