gwru we do not always agree but your point on warne is correct. The great human being shield is because as a manager and as a person he cannot deal with difficult staff, so he avoids the conflict, that is not a leader that is a coward and I have said it all season, the man is scared and timid as a manager and it shows in his leadership approach and the results. football is a results business and this bloke doesn't get them, however whilst he is manager I will support him but I will not do so blindly or through rose tinted glasses like a lot of them
I was tempted to play, 'It's Over' by Roy Orbison but I'll settle for a glass of red as I don't do melancholy.
Instead I'll be mostly playing, 'Glad All Over' by The Dave Clarke Five.
Question. Do our players know it's all over?
No rose tinted glasses here. Warne is a great man-manager, a rare intellectual manager and an inspirational manager who has got more than expected out of a bunch of players who were always going to struggle in the Championship. He is still learning his trade but Rotherham would be mad to part with him and I believe he will be here next season and beyond.
As an aside, I've not done the maths, but it seems to me that our fellow Yorkshire teams have done as much as anyone in this league to get us relegated. Leeds today, Blades last Saturday, 11th injury minute Owls goal etc, etc.
Couldn't agree more GlennMiller. It's all but over now but instead of the blame game we should applaud & congratulate Warne & his players for their herculean efforts in trying to keep this squad full of good L1 standard players in the money laden second tier.
What he said. Stick with Warney. You know it makes sense. There are too many journeymen out there who wouldn't be suitable enough to fill Warney's shoes.
If there is such a person here's the opportunity to name a few names.
Some lyrics from 'Big Yellow Taxi' by Joni Mitchell
… 'Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got 'Till it's gone'
Mark my words
UTM!
-- Edited by wotsisname on Friday 19th of April 2019 06:47:25 PM
I'm struggling to think of another manager, not Hursty he's another good human being. Agree Warney will be an intellectual manager. A great man manager no he only wants to manage players who he can control, no attitude allowed. Inspirational manager?
See his retained list next season. Hope we aren't left with were decent players at our level, limited players.
we just can't defend 12 goals shipped in the last 3 away games says it all I for one wishes that the season is over we need a break the only crumb of comfort is clubs like Luton Millwall will take our place if we had stayed up more of the same punishment just hope the new recruitment guys can help us bring some new talent in if we get some money for Vaulks Ajah one player I would splash out is Diodge need a goalscorer for next season a few decent signings would cheer us all up get ready for div 1. I would personally thank all of the Yorkshire clubs for helping us out there is one thig we found out they were as much use as a chocolate poker sorry again for the millers who traveled away long journey home they deserve better.
Just watched sky highlights. Could have been so different. Smith should have made it 3-1 before HT, same player missed a decent chance to make it 4-4. Crooks missed with a good headed chance 2nd H but took his goal well. They had their chances 2nd H, their goals when/if we look back at them don't think we'll be happy with them.
That was our season in ninety minutes. The players gave it everything. Decisions seem to go against us more often than not. We played a side assembled at several times our budget and pushed them really close but came up just short. I feel both proud and frustrated. I don't know if we could have done any more, but we just can't stop other teams scoring. How many times have we scored two or more goals and not won? Its a combination of us not keeping the ball well enough, occasional poor defending and the fact that our opponents have the quality to take chances when they come along.
I see that the recriminations have started even before relegation is certain. Its all as misguided as it is predictable. GlennMiller has already summed it up as well as it can be put. We aren't down yet. The effort that has gone in to this season, they deserve total support even if the now likely relegation is confirmed.
-- Edited by smiler on Friday 19th of April 2019 10:56:43 PM
We are going down but if our chairman backs the manager I will not my choice I will live with it looking foreward to next season I hope we can get the right players in anybody who wants to go the quicker the better nèed fresh faces in the main thing is we are not in any silly debt better than last time no Blackstock hanging round like a bad smell the end of the season can't come quick enough for me
You can't alter the record books. Evans kept us in the championship, Warney though not confirmed hasn't. Evans is history. With Tony Stewart a manager he's got to insist we need recruitment not say could do with. Two transfer windows this season we failed ended with our best central defender Ajayi along with Robertson playing in midfield. No wingers good enough cause for some reason Warney won't play Williams on the right. Do we give Warney another go? It's a two year plan min' if we do. Whose out there? I'm there next season whatever.
If Steve Evans was in this position he would have been sacked by now most of you would have been wanting him out it's obvious Warney will be our manager next season we nèed a big change next season build the team around Wiles he is our future need to work fast to move players on this is where Rob Scott is pivotal hope we have somebody who can help us bring in the right signings the club need to tell us where we are going next all we want is a bit of hope for the future. We are not very happy Easter bunnies at the moment start with a win on Monday.
I'll be there next season but not sure if Warney should be. A manager isn't one of the boys. He seems incapable of making tough decisions. He played Forde again today whose so limited you've got to blind not to see it. On about keeping Potter who'll be 35 soon who was released by a club lower than us when we signed him. Somebody tell me different.
-- Edited by gwru on Friday 19th of April 2019 06:02:32 PM
Potter was signed and will be retained for 1 reason and 1 reason only as clearly displayed in our Jan transfer dealings
Lose monday and it's over
Warne has had 2 seasons and a half
Operated on a **** poor budget. Tony lives in another reality I'm.not saying pay big but pay some like market value.
I hope he give Warne the transfer money from the sale of player. I think he take the money and give a percentage to the budget
This next season will be my last because why should I continually invest my money if he doesn't
I pay prob the same he has invested in comparison to wealth
the only team that got us relegated is Rotherham United nothing to do with anyone else. At the end of the season if you go down it is the people that run the club and manage the club that are accountable. This attitude is rife in our society, it is always someone elses fault, what a load of rubbish.
As I said I am not warnes greatest fan, but i will support him whilst he is our manager, time for the board to give him more support though, they have made his job a lot harder. Regarding the players, I think they have tried hard, let us all hope for a miracle
Dont understand how we would improve by selling Vaulks and AJ !. Surely if the board have any intention of progressing on the field why would you sell your assets.
Yes, I get that we could, (emphasis on could), get lots of money for them. But then what? Get two more players of equal talent ? Or would we spend the proceeds on say, 4more players with less calibre? If the answer to the former is yes, then why not keep what we have or if the answer to the latter is affirmative, then we can only be going backwards.
I could get £300k for my house, but to move to a new house of equal stature and location, I would have to spend £300k. In order to have money in the bank I'd have to downsize.
The only time that I could see we could make money and make progress by selling our better players is to develop an active youth system and then re-invest the proceeds. Assuming all goes to plan we as a club could then make some money and progress. Oh but I forgot for a moment, we are Rotherham United.
Warne has, I am sure done his best, but during his tenure we have in the main recruited poorly, which may or may not been his fault but we have brought in far too many player plagued by injury or who have not performed. Don't see how flogging off the ones who have been value for money can take us forward.
I can't understand I am not going next season I can't wait for next season getting my season ticket next week is it going to be that bad in div 1 start winning a few games water off a ducks back going down. I went to Don Valley it opened at 10am I was there at 1015am picking my seat straight down to the ticket office I was there when there was only 2500 there on a Tuesday night.
Is it that bad season ticket prices are very fair chairman trying his best this is a time when you should be supporting your club real supporters back them through thick and thin what Tony Stewart has done deserves our support.
Dont understand how we would improve by selling Vaulks and AJ !. Surely if the board have any intention of progressing on the field why would you sell your assets.
Yes, I get that we could, (emphasis on could), get lots of money for them. But then what? Get two more players of equal talent ? Or would we spend the proceeds on say, 4more players with less calibre? If the answer to the former is yes, then why not keep what we have or if the answer to the latter is affirmative, then we can only be going backwards.
I could get £300k for my house, but to move to a new house of equal stature and location, I would have to spend £300k. In order to have money in the bank I'd have to downsize.
The only time that I could see we could make money and make progress by selling our better players is to develop an active youth system and then re-invest the proceeds. Assuming all goes to plan we as a club could then make some money and progress. Oh but I forgot for a moment, we are Rotherham United.
Warne has, I am sure done his best, but during his tenure we have in the main recruited poorly, which may or may not been his fault but we have brought in far too many player plagued by injury or who have not performed. Don't see how flogging off the ones who have been value for money can take us forward.
Towdlad, we wont improve by selling Vaulks and Ajayi, we will however make a few quid (not as much however as our more money savey opponents would if they were selling said players). Will that money be reinvested, i suspect not. Will we develop any youth players to feed into the first team, again i suspect not. Will we fish around for more of the likes of Potter, injury prone at the end of their career but cheap and loan signings, yes i believe we will.
As a few above had said, the last time we came down to L1 we were told lessons had been learned, again I thnk not
the only team that got us relegated is Rotherham United nothing to do with anyone else. At the end of the season if you go down it is the people that run the club and manage the club that are accountable. This attitude is rife in our society, it is always someone elses fault, what a load of rubbish.
It was a light-hearted observation - obviously wasted!
