It has already been spent on wages where do you get this 800 grand from MC match prices were only £10 & £5 now I might not be the smartest tool in the box but the maths just don't add up. Heard all this when boothy was in charge he didn't give many interviews but he point he kept making was if more people would go he would put more money in. As far as I am concerned it starts with the Rotherham public do they want a championship team no increase in crowds where will the money come from.
Agree were's the money gone? Wages, expenses. There was no £800,000 made out of the Man C cup tie, 1/4 of that more like. Warney: tell me someone better who'll work under our restraints. I can't think of nobody who got our clubs interests at heart.
The money we made from promotion should show in the accounts. 8 million credit and then it will disappear with accountancy magic
Still.doesnt excuse **** poor recruitment policy in summer.
Bringing Yates back was poor one leave the player where he was playing scoring goals.
Ball would have been a better option imo
Total garbage. The total match day ticket receipts at City were about £500K tops. Take off match day operating costs (policing, staffing etc) and then half what is left, and that is what we made. £150K to £200K might not be far away. Less than the fee reportedly paid for Crooks, never mind his wages. The £8-£10m additional money you mention is also speculative, but whatever it is, it is additional revenue not clear profit. Our costs will have increased very substantially. And we had losses incurred to get there that have to be plugged some time. Check out our and other clubs accounts that show the cost of life in The Championship vs League One. But that doesn't suit your anti-Warne and anti-Stewart narrative and rhetoric does it? In your mind it makes far more sense that an astute and successful businessman would deliberately steer us down a division where the business that he owns would have a much reduced turnover and not such a high profile. I'm yet to hear why he would want to choose that path. I would have thought that Tony Stewart would have a decent grasp of the concepts of investment and risk/reward, and it seems to me that he has shown very clearly that he does his best for us and wants us to do as well as we can, but you know best.
As already said the Rotherham public don't back the club to the extent were we could complete more in the transfer market. After Evans got us promoted if only some of the Wembley fans had stayed with us it would have made a difference. Sheff U fans call us toytown. They aren't far off.
I know some of you think we are happy clappers but i accept the realities of the financial situation we are in. All we can afford is a Fiesta not a BMW lets be honest the last 10 years have been good under Tony Stewart when he does finally go we will have something to complain about I don't get where all this money is people keep talking about.
Onto the match tomorrow lets get behind the team you never know what you will get until you bring your barrow back one of mothers old sayings.
Total garbage. The total match day ticket receipts at City were about £500K tops. Take off match day operating costs (policing, staffing etc) and then half what is left, and that is what we made. £150K to £200K might not be far away. Less than the fee reportedly paid for Crooks, never mind his wages. The £8-£10m additional money you mention is also speculative, but whatever it is, it is additional revenue not clear profit. Our costs will have increased very substantially. And we had losses incurred to get there that have to be plugged some time. Check out our and other clubs accounts that show the cost of life in The Championship vs League One. But that doesn't suit your anti-Warne and anti-Stewart narrative and rhetoric does it? In your mind it makes far more sense that an astute and successful businessman would deliberately steer us down a division where the business that he owns would have a much reduced turnover and not such a high profile. I'm yet to hear why he would want to choose that path. I would have thought that Tony Stewart would have a decent grasp of the concepts of investment and risk/reward, and it seems to me that he has shown very clearly that he does his best for us and wants us to do as well as we can, but you know best.
Can't find fault with that smiler, however I would differ slightly from your last couple of sentences, re TS deliberately steering us down ward.
While I would not say that there is a desire for relegation, what I would suggest, and it is only me thinking out loud here, I would suggest that as an astute business man he accepts that the Championship it one step up too far. He sees the cost of remaining there as unacceptable with regard to players wages, agents demands overheads etc and having already seen how much money can be literally thrown away by the likes of Evans and Stubbs for little or no return, he is now clearly windy about doing the same again.
Its been a gamble that has not paid off in the past. With limited resources and relatively small gate receipts and wages and costs being what they are, it would be madness from a business perspective, to keep throwing money at it. So my thoughts are that he sees it two ways; we manage to finish 4th from bottom with what we've got, then its a bonus. If we go down, well then we go down, at least in L1 the finances will be more manageable, and we remain solvent. You could argue that either option could be viewed as a win win situation.
That said, we then potentially find ourselves in the same position that we were in under the Pursehouse regime where we had money in the bank and assets, (Millmoor) but have season after season of mundane 3rd division mediocrity.
I would be happier to see the club developing off field to build a sound base for the future that we can all buy into that may take five to 10 years to show results instead of trying to make millionaires out of mercenary football players who are here today, gone tomorrow
Its frustrating and disappointing, but this is after all Rotherham United.
Always good to see your posts Towdlad. You could well be close to the mark there. I think the delay in being able to develop the Guest and Chrimes site has probably been a much bigger blow to our development as a club than we know. We will never get massive crowds. The club does well using the stadium all year round for conferences, functions etc but the potential to generate revenue from hotel facilities and a bit of retail on the doorstep was part of the bigger plan, and it ha**** the buffers.
I don't do the lottery I might start having a go on it if I win the big one say 150 million bung 100 million into Rufc say to Tony can we do any damage with this call me an idiot for saying this but there is more chance that happening than Rotherham getting some big money coming in. As I and other people have said the place to start is getting more people to come the old excuse grounds no good doesn't wash with me prices fair parking ok easy to get in and out of the ground every time I take my seat for a match look round and think this is brilliant. I agree the squad needs improving the starting point has to come from us.
i suggest you check your facts. TS stated in an interview that Rotherham received £800k from the City game, stop making numbers up that you have no idea about
i suggest you check your facts. TS stated in an interview that Rotherham received £800k from the City game, stop making numbers up that you have no idea about
I suggest you check the interview.
TS stated that the revenue from the tie was welcome. The journalist stated that Rotherham's share could be 'up to £800K'. At no point did TS give that or any other figure.
For us to trouser £800K the total take net of expenses had to be £1.6m. Assume no expenses for the sake of the argument. The crowd was a few more than 52,000. To generate £1.6m gross take from a 52,000 crowd, the average price per ticket would have had to be just upwards of £30. The majority of adult tickets on the day were £10. Most concessions were £5. Kids were £1. There wasn't a single ticket for sale at more than £30.
i suggest you check your facts. TS stated in an interview that Rotherham received £800k from the City game, stop making numbers up that you have no idea about
I suggest you check the interview.
TS stated that the revenue from the tie was welcome. The journalist stated that Rotherham's share could be 'up to £800K'. At no point did TS give that or any other figure.
For us to trouser £800K the total take net of expenses had to be £1.6m. Assume no expenses for the sake of the argument. The crowd was a few more than 52,000. To generate £1.6m gross take from a 52,000 crowd, the average price per ticket would have had to be just upwards of £30. The majority of adult tickets on the day were £10. Most concessions were £5. Kids were £1. There wasn't a single ticket for sale at more than £30.
They are the facts.
Not quite because the Fa takes 10% of the gate money !
Good point Millers Tale. That's even less we made then.
Derby, I'm just saying that your boldly asserted £800K must be overstating the reality three or four times over. You do the sums. The official attendance is a matter of record and you can quickly Google search to see what the ticket prices were. Its all there. A good 10,000 of the crowd must have been children paying £1 each, wouldn't you say?
You asserted £800k on the basis that TS said that was what it was. He didn't. He gave an interview about how much he'd put in over the years, how we compare to Man City etc. He never gave a number. The reporter (lazily) said 'up to £800k' which technically might have been right, depending how City chose to price it. As it happens they priced it low.
That's it really.
