But our best players are still here. I haven't given up yet but got to change formation. With players we've got available go 3-5-2. Side away at Millwall: Rodak; Ajayi Raggett Robertson; Forde Crooks Vaulks Towell Mattock; Smith Yates We haven't got a left winger fit. Won't work playing Forde or Taylor on the left.
-- Edited by gwru on Friday 1st of February 2019 10:33:37 AM
You may be disappointed but are you really surprised .
I feel that Tony has thrown the towel in for this season . Not investing in the team when we have the chance to strengthen on hoping we can scrape to stay up .
Can’t wait for my st renewal form to arrive .
Not only have the management at RUFC let us down they have let our players down by not signing anyone of note. What do I mean? I don't see a rotation system in place whereby we can afford to rest our key players and call on equally proficient members of a squad who could be called upon as and when required. Members of our first team must be getting battle weary by now. Some players could even be carrying injuries and turning out to play week in and week out? That of course is both controversial and debatable. The reported camaraderie between Warney and the players? That will soon disappear out of the window when we eventually lose those quality players. I will not name those players but will say that without them the first team would fall to bits. Someone alluded to eventual League 2 football for us. I agree. That's where we're heading. As for loan players. I'll pass on that one. It's tried, tested and come to nought. We'll need more than an away win at Millwall to get us out of the doo doo. It will take someone to grow some and ask the board at NYS for some financial assistance to help us stay in the Championship. Ha ha! I know. That's not gonna happen any time soon nor will there be any sackings.
UTM!
Total joke been a small club in a big league
Means we have to offer more. Something the stewarts won't do.
So Warne as you haven't got any players in
Then you.need to recall both balls back.from loan. I'm sure we can Stop been a humanist and grow a pair tactically have 2 formations
Plan A plan b
Stop playing 1 up front it isn't WORKING !!!!!!!!!!!!
TRY 4 4 11 WITH YATES OR VASSELL or 4 3 3
Don't get this if I'm not getting a season ticket because things did not go our way if you are not happy stop boring us genuine supporters. I am just as unhappy with the present situation at NYS it does not mean I will stop going.
It must be one of our worst transfer windows feel sorry for Warney what chance has he got tomorrow his job is on the line me personally I would stick with him the chairman has to come out and tell us what ever league we are in next season he stays. WE need some stability in the club pressing the panic button now is not the answer. As a life long Miller I hope most of you will continue to do what I am doing enjoy going and come on this site and enjoy a good moan.
Totally agree with you TH Miller. Of course all millers will be disappointed that we have no new faces in and Warneys job is now much more difficult.
On another post Bradthemiller responded to my comment about How Bournemouth manage on 12k gates. Quite rightly he said T.V money, but a club like us he felt, what comes through the turnstiles happen to have a massive bearing on our club. He went on to say that he wished some of the happy clappers would actually think before they comment.
Well, i would like to think i put a fair amount of thought into it. I will give you the details of 2017 and 2016 seasons
RUFC Turnover 2017 2016
13m 13.03m
loss 1.236m 1.457m
Match income
+season tickets 2.265m 2.457m
wages. salaries 8.670m 9.409m
Now i wasn't very good at maths at school 50 years ago but a turnover of 13million where match income and season ticket sales amount to only 2.265 million doesnt mean it has a massive bearing on how we function. Like Bournemouth its the t.v money and the willingness of the chairman to dig deep that counts. Derbymiller was correct when he said their owner is a billionaire and gambled and it paid off. I believe T.S has nowhere near the means to do that nor should he gamble on the future of our club. A little more release of the purse strings would have helped us and made the fans less likely to rebel.
Appreciate you can’t spend someone else’s money but why aren’t we taking a punt on a player like Stockley who’s just left Exeter? Ok the transfer fee would be fairly big but surely the wage shouldn’t be an issue. Instead we have been reported to be chasing a forward who’s on 20 grand a week, never going to happen and a complete waste of time.
The transfer policy at times is so out dated, we still expect someone to come in for 100 grand and bang 30 in.
The worst transfer widow was when we got Blackstock and that central defender from Forrest. Now I don't know if it's true or not but I was told at the weekend he cost us 1.2 million plus the other player how much was that a waste of money.
In this window the best Signing was Wiles he is our future. How many clubs are going to end up next season with financial headaches.
WE could be the lucky ones I think this FPL are going to clamp down even harder I can see more transfer embargoes or even points deductions. If we go down I would sooner be a club in our position.
It’s a shambles, but we must move on and make the best of what we have got.
We need to give Michael Smith some support because I feel he is running on empty at the moment. There is a need to sort out the system we play 4 5 1 works but you need the players to play it. We have wingers who cannot defend and do not seem capable of sting their fullback. Opponents don,t need to defend this area because they know we are not going to cause them any problems there and consequently push their wing backs forward. Smith works hard but without support and often in areas of the pitch he shoul not be in. I am unhappy at watching defenders stroll through games and not really get a sweat on eg. the second Leeds centre back, the West Brom midfield and Sawyers of Brentford.
we will go to Millwall and play the same system that has been so unsuccessfully all season and probably get nothing for all our endeavours. Why not change it? Why not for once go SOB?
The problem is we play a system not suited to the talent we have. We try to stay in games and hope to nick a set piece but without Richard Wood we have difficulty. Pick the most effective team. Firstly one that can defend. Secondly one that can support Smith and be a danger from set pieces.
so I would suggest the following formation. 442 Rodack,Jones,Ajay,Woo,Robertson,Wiles,Vaulks,Towell,Mattock,Smith,Vassell.
somepeople may think I am crazy but I feel we cannot carry on hoping we have to be proactive.
How can a club like ours go forward in todays market. It gets harder every season. Every up & coming player half decent in the lower leagues will be on clubs with a lot bigger budget than ours list of targets. What's point of bringing players in not up to this level for the sake of it.
Got to go with what we have got. Raggett is out for a month but Wiles & Newell should be back for the Millwall game. Got to stick with 4-5-1. 4-4-2 we are digging our own grave. Know I said 3-5-2 but that was before I heard Newell was fit. Rodak; Jones Ajayi Robertson Mattock; Forde Wiles Vaulks Towell Newell; Smith for tomorrow. Sounds like Wiles won't be involved so Crooks instead.
-- Edited by gwru on Friday 1st of February 2019 11:48:53 AM
Many of us have seen the bad times and will be forever grateful to TS for saving the club, because that's exactly what he did.
BUT. It is not unreasonable to expect the club to be run professionally and people employed to do their job properly. As Chairman, in the end it’s all down to TS.
For at least 5 seasons we've had terrible transfer windows and the people he has doing this job, in my opinion, are not up to the job.
As others have said many times, it makes ZERO business sense to not invest a little to try and stay in this league as income and outgoings in league 1 (or 2) will REDUCE the profitability of the business, meaning it makes no sesne for TS either, as he'll end up putting more into the club not less.
As a lifelong fan myself - it hurts in my gut to see the club not doing what it needs to - and it feels EXACTLY like when the Booths were in their final years as owners. ..and I don’t want to ‘grin and bear it’… I want to see progressive action to keep the club I love in this league.
I for one, would love to see a new owner with some ambition and deeper pockets. Either that or TS gets in some help from other investors and employs some new people who can do their job properly.
As for enjoying games – No, it isn’t enjoyable seeing our team struggle game after game when it’s obvious to anyone that we have a decent core team that just needs that little bit of help. It’s the fact we can see we are not far off that makes it so frustrating when we see nothing being done, and makes us sad and angry.
Warney keeps saying it “we need a bit of help in some areas” or words to that effect – This month was the opportunity to do that little bit more to give us a chance – and the Club FAILS.
Of course we we still support the club, that's not the point. The Point is we are wasting the opportunities we have been given, both as a business and in terms of our enjoyment as fans, and it's so so frustrating.
Agree with every thing you wrote .
We are Tony Stewart’s customers where else would a customer be sold a bad product and fobbed off and kept in the dark about the said product and then expected to come back next year and buy some more , unbelievable at times this club .
I for one feel we have been taken for mugs this season by the club .
read all the posts lads that you had said, it all sums up to a manager that is failing. Save money now, sack Barker and force Warne to work with an experienced coach at this level and try something different, go to the free agent market and bring in 2 or 3 lads who are out of work and eager to earn a contract somewhere, add to that bring back the two Balls, shake hands and behave like a man, a leader Warne and not a spoiled kid
Then in the summer if Warne proves he can change and adapt we think again. I have a season ticket and will renew, but I do not want to watch this Paul Warne team play, if we didn't have Vaulks we would be bottom by now
There was an article in the paper (Telegraph?) a few weeks ago referring to at least 6 extremely wealthy people looking to buy a CHAMPIONSHIP club to purchase and develop. Mr Stewart should come clean about his intentions and if he admits he cannot finance a club in this league he should forget his ego and put the club up for sale. Perhaps he would be looking for £55 million ! It wouldn't sit comfortably with me to have foreign owners but if there was genuine ambitious investment i could stomach it. Now would be the time to sell. There certainly wont be much interest in a Lge 1 club !
Don't we have club scouts anymore? If not, why not? Out of the thousands of games played each week we don't have scouts watching for potential club players who haven't got any attached baggage ie an agent? I reckon we are looking in the wrong places. Would anyone on here like to enlighten me about scouting matters? I'm sure someone must know the ropes?
UTM!
The post about 6 wealthy individuals looking to buy a club.
If they looked in our direction they would see the club don't own the stadium. So Tony or his son could sell the club but not the stadium to which we pay asd holdings rent.
So we would need some one with enough cash to buy both. That's if the Stewart wants to sell.
Clearly, we are in a difficult and uncomfortable position in this league. I liked the point about lack of cover in the first team and the short-sighted policy of having a small group and the "human" first policy.
That being said we were not alone in having no or bad business this time around. I think im right in saying that Swansea didn't add to their squad but did lose a few very good players. There are many other examples. Thats, why I cant, find it in myself to be too critical and demand more money and a change in ownership or manager. Its pretty baseless to want such changes. Speculation is reasonable, but I am at a loss to find room for too much criticism.
Im glad we didnt cash in on our better players. If TS and the management team were as negligent as some suggest then we could have expected much worse than failing to land our targets. In fact, the inability to get our targets is hardly a reason to suppose its a failing of the club. The players went for more money and one decided to sit it out in his current teams' squad. Im not sure how the club or an individual is culpable?
I think that temperament has a part to play in what we expect from ourselves and others. Thats fair and natural. However, the facts are there and rest on a simple rationale. The more you earn the more you can spend. Thats it! We earn less than any other club in this division and while some may be comfortable going to loan sharks or the roulette wheel in a splurge of emotion or restlessness I would not. I wouldnt because it never works out. It places a burden on the immediate and on those aligned with you. Ultimately its borrowing money, paying back more and having no guarantee or way of controlling expenditure.
I am content with what we have achieved, but always want the club to go forward. Going forward is not easy to define, but, I think it involves continued support of current conditions while looking for sustainable improvements. Not an easy task, but, I think the reign of TS the first is easily the most successful era of any monarch to grace our Castle.
