Diverse opinion is fine - personal attacks are not. As for the MM comparisons, it is getting a bit stale, people are still people no matter where they post and are entitled / free / welcomed to do so on here and on there. It makes little difference.

As for the OP, the Brentford game would have put things in perspective that's for sure, not only for us but everyone concerned. The players aren't stupid, they'll hold their hands up and say look we're just not as good footballers as them (but that doesn't stop them from trying). Warney has come out and said hey maybe I need to review my own performance and choices, as well as let the players know what we can do better when we watch it back. So really what more can we do other than review it, try and learn a thing or two and move on. I really do think it makes very little difference what individuals we choose, what formation we play, what Warney decides to do as per setup in the game. The fact of the matter is, a club our size and resources have to try and use the best of what we have in, what is, the most financially skewed league in the world.

As for upstairs there will be no 'investment', neither from the outside. Nobody with an ounce of sense would. You invest to see a return on a risk and reward basis. What is the motivation to invest? - cos we certainly won't be selling out NYS every home game - and that is very sad, very sad indeed. We need double the amount of support we have now, to be sustainable. The club are saying look, we've got here now please come and help us. Unfortunately the Rotherham public won't buy into it. Why? - I don't know.


This season a lot will rest on what we do at home, if we can win 13 home games, that's half of them and take points from those in and around us and give them next to nothing away that is all that's needed to stay in this league. Any points we grab from those in the top 15 (that's 2/3's of the league), will just absolutely be a bonus. Treat this like a mini league - top 15, bottom 8, we need to finish as high as we can in the bottom 8.


Let's not all cave after Game 1, Brentford will be pretty high in that top 15

That is a fine post Ex on the football side of things. Nothing to disagree with there.

On the subject of this site, the problem that you have (if I may say so) is not about posters who post on here and on Mad. The problems is that Banter has become a haven for some posters who are only here because they are excluded from Mad. They are doing the same things on here as they did to wind everybody over there up. As you say, diverse opinion is fine. But how often you express the same opinions and how you do it is also important.

If a stranger walked into a pub and joined in a conversation with others and repeatedly SHOUTED the same opinions at them, he would be probably be asked to behave, then to leave if he carried on. If he wasn't sorted out the locals would probably find somewhere else to drink before very long, so as to avoid him.

I respect your diplomatic effort and understand the difficulties faced by a moderator, but some good posters on here have disappeared or now post only very occasionally and they have made it pretty clear why that is. Have a look at Calypo's earlier post, and Len's 'too late' comment. I am on the verge of giving it up again, which I did briefly once before because it is so frustrating and irritating to keep reading the same cynical drivel. That is fine, I know it isn't all about me or indeed about me at all. All I would say is that there is a real risk that you might soon have a pub with only one person in it, and that won't be good for him either because he will have nobody left to SHOUT AT.

The site is becoming MM since a few new posters arrived. As Calypso said on another thread, its not about opinions, its about the tunnel vision of a certain view which is repeated time and time again which ever thread you care to look at. Going over old ground over and over again from Warnock to Stubbs from JCH to god knows who. To see it over and over and over again. Its f*****g boring ! And offers not one iota of insight or thought out theory to discuss.

We lost on saturday, the knives are out and f*****g Stubbs and Warnock are still being mulled over with 'what ifs' offered as some sort of therapy for getting over a defeat. If you don't agree then you are a happy clapper, got you head buried in the sand or choose not to see the 'reality' from these newly arrived experts.

For goodness sake lets talk football and Rotherham united. Stubb, Warnock…Move on and stick em where the sun don't shine.

Thats me. I'm fed up with the lot of it. You just can't have a bit of banter anymore. without it turning into a MM den of vipers.

Keep posting and spead read / ignore posts or subjects that you are not interested in - Not everyone is on the same page and one persons absolute priority is someone else's old news. Just like life - live and let live. Some folk try to impose there thoughts on others and form groups of posters ( like this thread ) - picking on individuals. It's obvious if you look for it. It's pathetic and childish. Just ignore them and take what you need from the site. And enjoy !