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smiler why is it that every player has to be for more than £1m ? you always take an extreme view when people challenge the club. as i have said previously there are hundreds of players out of work across europe are you saying we could not have identified a few to bring in on short term contracts or even pay as you pay just to give the squad some depth some variety and some experience. i think the policy of players for the long term only that fit the ethos of warne is not always the best policy you sometimes have to adapt policy to deal with short term issues. At the moment I see nothing that indicates this will not be the worst season for points in the clubs history except hope from the club and blind faith from people like you. To answer your question I would love to have access to the finances to see the real position, to have access to the realms of professionals that could provide advice that the club has, I am sure there are more courageous yet pragmatic strategies we could take, that do not automatically create debt that cannot be serviced via the available revenue streams.

Dom Ball and Purrington wouldn't make a half decent defender if they combined their attributes. That is my opinion. Regardless of our opinions, the Manager obviously doesn't fancy them. If they aren't going to play (which it seems they aren't) it makes sense to get them out, get them somewhere where they will be playing for their own sakes, avoid having disillusioned players around the place, and free up the wages. Bigger clubs than us send players out on loan in similar cir***stances. That doesn't mean of itself that we are living on the breadline. It is just good sense.

Derby, I understand the frustration. We seem to be using the loan system as best we can play it, and have brought Jones in for example as a short term bit of experience (he isn't someone we will sell in the future for a fee). Robertson looks a good acquisition from what I have seen of him and I will be surprised if he isn't a fixture in the side before long. I think he was unlucky not to start on Saturday. Vassell perhaps is a bit of a punt - someone we see something in that can be developed. There may well be more to come. As has been widely publicised, yesterdays deadline was a 'soft' one. We could sign someone today effectively on a permanent deal but it would have to technically be a loan until January. My guess is that that will happen, but of course I don't know that.

I have been critical of the club myself in the past. I don't have the rose tinted glasses on that you think I have. I was in a minority who criticised Tony Stewarts decision to sack Redfearn, which in my view (without wanting to rake over the past) was a knee jerk response to a vocal section of supporters. I have criticised him for 'bigging up' our prospects which is just a daft thing to do when we haven't got the resources to compete with all of the huge clubs in the same division. In fairness though this year I don't think any daft promises have been made. The consistent message has been that we are a small fish in a big pond but are going to do the best we can with what we have and what we can afford, and see where it gets us. Personally, I can get behind that.

I just think it is a big leap to suggest that the people at the helm aren't doing all that they can in challenging cir***stances. Why wouldn't they be doing their best? Why wouldn't we want to stop up? How do you know that they aren't doing all they can?

I agree about Purrington, Mattock with Hinds coming through makes sense loaning him out. Dom Ball nobody can tell me it's a football decision loaning him out. He'd be a lot safer bet than Ajayi. Wood is too slow for this league. Another thing if we had kept Dom Ball we wouldn't have needed Raggett, that would allow us another loan that we could play. Hoping Vyner it was lack of match fitness last week cause Jones doesn't fill me with confidence. Let's get this central midfielder in today, hopefully a right winger next. Let's get Wiles involved, don't want him left out of the match day squad to keep players happy who are not championship players, thinking Forde Taylor Da Ball.

Bornamiller, I get some of your points re D ball being younger and having had potential for the future and could be a better prospect than Wood, but please please please, pretty please will you drop the, D. Ball playing for Aberdeen, Purrington, Stubbs mantra. Also the same old complaint of yours that Warne 'freezes' people out and keeps his 'mates' in. A manager has to manage and all managers have different approaches and prefer different types of players. Thats the way it is. You would manage differently to me and one outcome would be better than the other.

We know your opinion, appreciate its your opinion which you are entitled to. I was upset and was on the point of tears when Frank Casper left the club and vowed never to support the Millers again. But you get over it and move on. If you are critical of Warne and some of his players then fine; but back it up with your sound reasoning and stop raking up the whys and wherefores of several years ago. You dont know as a fact that it would have been any better now if we'd stuck with Stubbs, the way you wanted, because it never happened. Its just dream world that has no place in the present real world.

No he wasn't...." he was sacked for **** poor tactics"...These are precisely the tactics Bolton had v WBA and stole 3 points. He was sacked because TS bottled his 3 year project because supporters didn't comprehend the tactic. And definately not TS. No doubt - the out of favour Wood went whimpering to the chairman saying the manager was wrong which is the tail shaking the donkey ! But hasn't Wood done well out of it when he was toast under AS. And AS was right ! Again - we played open football like PW thinks we cold against the dross of league one ! Grrrrr yourself - if it's good enough for the special one - it's could enough for me....bur you know better ? Opinions but history is there to read but only if you read it all not just club propaganda ! Football is about passion...so I understand your "passion"....but the one thing we can agree about is we both think the other is wrong....I can live with that if you can....lol

Just to contextualise a little - we are all talking Football / Rotherham United / historical wrongs and rights....When I constantly hear....no regularly hear reference to RM - Robins - EVO - past managers / regimes. It is easy to see that the propagandists have rendered certain aspects of our history as taboo....Well that's a big congratulations to them ! History is history no matter how mis-understood as some era's are. Accept others opinions without anger and ignore them if you disagree. Strange that some posters cite evidence only to prove my point better than I could - it shows an lack of understanding and / or blind acceptance of club propaganda and common ignorance. Just my opinion and ignore it if you like. I hope the squad comes good and does a Millwall - starting Saturday! This forum is bemoaning the fact that we haven't exactly made the project any easier - but folk are perhaps misreading the club's statements of better prepared.....I think we all thought being "better prepared" mentioned something else...lol Up the Millers....good will to all men and let's make Cancer a thing of the past - real aspirations. Football is 11 v 11 kicking a bag of wind ! But debate is just FUN !

"Off-line" you lucky so n so ! We've all been going through hell lol There's kids dying on this round ball we live on....so ....sing your hearts out for the lads - those lads in red and white tomorrow want Rotherham United to win - they are all "good people" ( guaranteed apparently ) so come on you reds....plough them under !

That's a very fair question Splinter. If we have got money available to back the manager in the market and don't do it, I would be joining in with the criticism. I suspect the wage bill will be much higher than last season even if we don't pay transfer fees, and operating costs will also go up. But the real answer is that we don't really know. I have a certain amount of faith that Stewart never had to own us and that he isn't in it to make money, and is driven to succeed. Others may not share that view. I suppose your question is the perfect one to be asked at the forthcoming fans forum.