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Date: Mon Jul 16 19:15 2018

RE: WC Final Penalty to France - VAR

wotsisname wrote:
Why not go the whole hog? Each team to be able to play a Joker card once during any one game? That way we can demonstrate to the rest of the world and their grandmothers that there's still a long way to go before we can match the quality of discipline as displayed in Rugby League.
And before anyone says it, yes, I do go and watch games in the Rugby League. Perhaps one day I may even give up on watching prima donnas in action on the football field.

I agree with you up to about the prima donnas in football. Anything that helps stop grown men behaving like young children must be encouraged.

I just think that giving them one challenge each and putting the onus on the teams to either use it or crack on with the game would stop the constant pressure put on officials as the decision to review or not will be taken out of their hands. Allowing only one each will mean they will have to think twice before using it.

There are other sports (cricket, tennis for example) where similar systems work well.

All sports are different and how they use technology to best effect will therefore vary. To the points made by Towdlad and Glenn, I think that the question is not whether or not to use technology but how best to deploy it. The reality is that so many top level games are shown on TV from so many camera angles that referees were getting pulled from pillar to post every game, which was making their jobs impossible. That isn't going to stop, so we might as well accept that and use the available images to help referees rather than as a stick to beat them with.

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Date: Mon Jul 16 21:45 2018

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Smiler - I like your idea. I would be happy for decisions regarding goal line and off side to be reviewed routinely throughout the game - the answers to those incidents are a clear yes or no. Any other judgement decisions could be subject to an appeal system granted to the captains of each team - one per half seems reasonable. The question is; do you give the Ref an opportunity to review any incidents on which he is unsure? Unfortunately, this could lead to players trying the influence the Ref to review an incident - so probably the answer would be to make it an automatic bookable offence to ask or suggest that the Ref needs to review?

Should a limited review system be introduced, I wonder what accompaniment football fans will develop. Tennis fans all break into a rhythmic applause as the replay is shown in slow-mo. Cricket fans go through the slow torture of is the ball legitimate, does it pitch in line, will it go on to hit the stumps or snickometer, followed by a revelation on the scoreboard of the third umpire's decision.

If such a system were introduced, I wonder if the replays which the Ref watches will be played live to the crowd? I hope so. NYS would need an upgrade to its current video screen which suffers from regular glitches.

Finally, if we're playing Millwall and the Ref is asked to review a penalty claim by Rotherham in the final minute, will the SYP Inspector be asked to assist the Ref in making the correct decision based H&S grounds? The possibilities are endless and it could add a whole new element of entertainment to the game!

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Date: Tue Jul 17 10:11 2018

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This all starts lower down though. In kids football 99% of kids get on with the game, coaches are teaching kids respect and the people on the touchline are more respectful too. Get to u15 / 16 and players start to have more to say for themselves, but do it with respect. Then you go into mens football. I ref both kids and 5 a side mens, and the difference is incredible. I still play, coach and referee, and I get it that people will always have an instant reaction to an interpreted referee call, I do it. It becomes horrible when that turns into full blown argument, anger, verbal etc. The common demoninator in all of it is - 'get on with the game'. Luckily for me at 5 a side, I can't stop the watch so when an adult player wants to say far too much I always have that to use, that time is being wasted which invariably gets their team mates to tell them to shut up.

I love refereeing kids football, it is an absolute pleasure, but the mens game is vile - how ref's do it week in week out is beyond me, I'm only doing it to get through the summer then I'm out of it when the season starts - hopefully for good.

I don't know what happens at 17 / 18 but something has to change. Why the FA keep resisting on refs wearing Go Pro's makes absolutely no sense. More needs to be recorded and more players need to get fines - it's the only way to change the ethos. Players need to walk onto a pitch knowing they're being recorded and that there's an instant robust system in place for fining (there is - its called Wholegame but most don't know about it), it needs to be more common knowledge, so they know what consequences there are if they CHOOSE to go too far.

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RE: WC Final Penalty to France - VAR