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When and how did you come up with the theory that Warne "can't cope with players with "attitude" Examples please bornamillerhater. You clearly know him intimately.


 It is a nice easy throw-away criticism isn't it?  But totally without substance.   

BornAWarneHater didn't think Warne had it in him to get us promoted.  How that day at Wembley must have disappointed him.  No hairdryer required apparently.  No wonder he was so quiet for a while.  It may have been the shock kicking in.  Best to put it down to getting LUCKY in a crap division to save face.

If 'attitude' means 'bad attitude' then on the basis of what I have seen Warne copes with it really well.  There are plenty of really good players out there with a good attitude.  They are the ones that we want.  If you have got a bad attitude you belong somewhere else.  That seems to me to be a perfectly good way of dealing with them. 

The idea that talented players are always difficult people is simply rubbish.  Talent and good attitude do not have to be and are not mutually exclusive.

 



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Attitude isn't a problem. If we are going to have for us a good season coming up needs some players with talent bringing in. Disruptive & won't do the training is what we don't want. Wait & see who we bring in. I don't want kids & were good players. I'd like Rodak & Towell back. Dwane Holmes & Moore would lv them here next season, championship players that's what we want. Dom Ball he's our player, get him back for pre-season see if he's right for us.



-- Edited by T71 on Wednesday 20th of June 2018 11:51:43 AM

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"When and how did you come up with the theory that Warne "can't cope with players with "attitude"

Because everyone he's encountered has been frozen out and their "development" dismissed and players gone...maybe to the detriment to the team - highly debatable and very personal to the individual.

The GOOD PEOPLE would also indicate ********* / big I am players ( albeit brilliant ) are off the menu.

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Star players from the lower leagues coming good after being spotted and bought for 10 bob....you couldn't even manage a handful ( 5 )...No the odds are against it but they will be within budget. The bigger clubs would have him as an embryo if he had talent - just in case!

As for Towell -  he's enthusiastic but you can see why he's a million miles from being in line for a run of games for his parent club. He did a job for us last season though....not sure he's mobile enough for the championship.



-- Edited by Bornamiller on Wednesday 20th of June 2018 07:43:36 PM



-- Edited by Bornamiller on Wednesday 20th of June 2018 07:44:30 PM

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PS : We have a very good / young / ex SPURS centre back / defensive midfielder with an alleged attitude problem.

A "good manager" would have been capable of developing that player to be even better and to make him into a good person.

That hasn't happened has it and he has a better pedigree than most.

Frozen out and we need players in those positions - a good manager would get the best out of him.

Must be a bad egg like JCH.

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Bornamiller was ibj on other site and literally did what he’s doing now. Just the same thing over and over until he got banned. If the moderator on here has got any sense he will do the same. He’s not interested in debate just seeking a reaction and winding people up. That’s why people like me will rarely post on here.

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Imamiller wrote:

Bornamiller was ibj on other site and literally did what he’s doing now. Just the same thing over and over until he got banned. If the moderator on here has got any sense he will do the same. He’s not interested in debate just seeking a reaction and winding people up. That’s why people like me will rarely post on here.


It can't be easy being a moderator, but when a number of good posters on here are lost because of the trolling garbage of someone banned from Mad, something must be amiss.



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I dont agree with banning people……………………………..but there does come a point !!!

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Towdlad wrote:

I dont agree with banning people……………………………..but there does come a point !!!


 The voice of reason!

Who is that in the latest picture Towdlad?



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Outlaw Zip Watt who also went by the names of Dick Yeager and Wild Charlie. Every day's a school day.

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Outlaw Zip Watt who also went by the names of Dick Yeager and Wild Charlie. Every day's a school day.


 So it is.  Just looked him up, and it is Zip Wyatt.  Never heard of him before, but the first site I saw referred to him as 'Notorious Oklahoma Hombre' which gives him instant appeal.

 



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wotsisname wrote:

Outlaw Zip Watt who also went by the names of Dick Yeager and Wild Charlie. Every day's a school day.


 So it is.  Just looked him up, and it is Zip Wyatt.  Never heard of him before, but the first site I saw referred to him as 'Notorious Oklahoma Hombre' which gives him instant appeal.

 


 Zip Wyatt  and Wyatt Earp were never seen together. What are the chances of that happening? 



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It's hard to debate when it's against the law to disagree with some people who appear to just know they're right....

Then after being ignorant and offensive they call for others to be banned.

Why don't you just call for people who disagree to walk around with stars pinned to them.

The deadheads from MM appear to be filtering through to this site - they ruined MM - they'll make this site as pointless as MM if you allow the same abuse and lack of open posts.

Not everyone thinks the same.




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That comment about walking around with stars frankly I find disgusting and totally unnecessary you don't get gassed for having different opinions. But repetitive posts get boring and frustration, so some posters who pursue this policy for whatever reason, because they either cant think of anything else to say, or are internet trolls looking for attention,  then they will get negative frustrated comments back.

What me and other banterers are asking for is proper opinions on here related to the club we support. So can we start having proper well thought out post. comments and opinions please !!!

No one is saying you cant have a different opinion but lets be mature and acknowledge differences of opinion

I didn't think warne was a good choice as a manager but I was proved wrong.  he cleared out the trash and got in the players he thought would do a better job and like in all jobs a manager have to start somewhere.  Warne looks like he has a game plan and we going to have peaks and troughs. 

warne is going to get players who he believes will fit into his ethos and on last seasons results it works . they work and fight as a team. Its blatantly obvious he has holes to fill in the squad and i am not expecting loads of marquee signings because to be honest and admit it we don't have the financial clout but the financial fair play rules mean it will be a more level playing field
i expecting 4 loans and about 3 permanent signings some of which may break the transfer record 

I do think this time it will be different approach to the championship where we had a revolving transfer policy.


so lets see how the summer pans out and judge them on performance not just the results




Tony I think  has decided to follow the burnley method with sean dyche and look how that turned out. 



-- Edited by hillsborough miller on Friday 22nd of June 2018 07:28:59 AM



-- Edited by hillsborough miller on Friday 22nd of June 2018 08:13:11 AM

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Bornamiller wrote:

It's hard to debate when it's against the law to disagree with some people who appear to just know they're right....

Then after being ignorant and offensive they call for others to be banned.

Why don't you just call for people who disagree to walk around with stars pinned to them.

The deadheads from MM appear to be filtering through to this site - they ruined MM - they'll make this site as pointless as MM if you allow the same abuse and lack of open posts.

Not everyone thinks the same.



'It's hard to debate.....'

'....people who appear to just know they're right....'

'....ignorant and offensive....'

'The deadheads from MM appear to be filtering through to this site....'

The irony!!!!  

 In the real world you wouldn't keep going back to your local boozer to keep saying the same things over and over again if the regulars were so fed up of you that a third of them were ignoring you, a third were asking you to stop and the final third had stopped going so as to avoid you.  Yet you persist in this space in exactly the same scenario.  You must be able to see that reaction for yourself.  You have already been barred from one pub for it and you have moved on to another and you are doing the same again.  Why?  Unless you get a kick out of getting those reactions.  Seriously, why bother?



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totally agree



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Everyone is entitled to an opinion Bornamiller and we know and understand your opinions very well indeed which are in a nut shell :
That we are:-

a)Not good enough because we have no quality
b) We have no money to get quality
c) We were promoted because L1 is full of rubbish and we were only just a bit better than most of the rubbish, but we are still rubbish and were lucky
d) Unless TS spends on quality we will remain rubbish
e) As a result of the above we will struggle in the Championship.

The irony is that you are probably right in your opinion because we all know our limitations and we have, to a man, acknowledged the fact that it is going to be tough and that we may lose more games than we win. But we hope! We have trust! And we look forward to the challenge and believe PW and the rest will do their best. Why do we think like this? Because we are supporters of our club; we expect others to diss us, we expect little from local media stations, we expect supporters from local clubs to try to belittle us.

But what we don't expect is a 'supporter' to diss us and talk us down at every opportunity. It is your opinion and your opinion is based on the facts as you see them, but please, please …………..change the tune.

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Well shizzle my nizzle. What's all this dissing, bro? Don't have a cow, blud. No need to be so salty an' all. Bornatormentor throwing some serious shade a lately. He no roadman mebbe from cul de sac?

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Perfect post Towdlad - couldn’t agree more! Please listen!

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It's Zip Wyatt not Towdlad. Ask Exe. He knows.smile



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