"Dom Ball - absolute liability at NYS and has done nothing since to prove otherwise" played a few time next to the world cup winner large fries 😊 and made a decent partnership.
You see that's where I fundamentallydiffer from many Rotherham fans in that we haven't had a decent ( tactical - technical - developmentall ) manager since before PW'S tenure.
Ball was brought in to "develop" under a manager that could develop players.
Warne is now the benchmark of our future and for me - if he thinks Yates is a player is not far above a non-league manager. And that's our future.
Ball came through the ranks at Spurs and it was a great buy bur on decent wages and a good prospect under a good manager / coach...Sadly we are controlled by a low budget and haven't got the coach to develop an individual / type of play.
Dunno what his contract situation is. If Aberdeen want to give us a fee for him let him go, if not either give Warne another go with him or list him. He seems to have done well in the SPL which is about L1 level at best & Christ we need a decent CB or two so let's see what happens.
iam waiting to see what happens in the windows i believe yates will be either be loaned out for a season or told to find another club .
his miss at Blackpool sums him up unfortunately.
also no one except the back room staff know these players attitude on the training ground
But are we running a cresch or a professional football team ?
Attitude of players has to be controlled by a strong manager. If a brilliant player becomes available - and that player needs a firm hand and nose to nose combative management - do we say pass....the green tea benefits only after drinking for a long long time....the benefits of a player with attitude pays off every Saturday.
Don't agree. Bad attitudes anywhere - football or a factory - cause disharmony, cliques, back biting and a loss of focus. A team that plays as a unit and does what the manager wants is the way forward. I'd move every troublemaker out in a heartbeat - Ball was probably goofed out of Spurs for not having the right discipline, then us and then Peterborough. Now in football graveyard.
T71 - any credibility you have disappears when you bang on about Bailey-King, Wiles, Hinds etc. I saw a kid playing for my local Sunday League team last weekend who was quick and looked quite tricky, but I wouldn't start him in our playoff game on Wednesday. For crying out loud. Bailey-King has played about 60 minutes of meaningless first team football. Wiles not even that. Bailey-King has vanished. Wiles may turn out to be a good player but now isn't the time to throw him in. No manager would give a kid their debut in such a big game unless the only alternative was to play ten men or walking wounded.
Palmer is a good player. As someone said earlier, he isn't Roy Keane, but he wasn't brought here to be Roy Keane. He was brought here because our holding midfielder (who does have his strengths but also has limitations) Will Vaulks can't pass a ball or control a game and (in the absence of Potter) we needed someone who can.
Dom Ball was awful for us. It is really just as simple as that. Peterborough didn't want him. He hasn't played many games at Aberdeen in a woeful league.
I do not buy into the myth that talented players are hard to handle. *******s. There are plenty of excellent players who are also excellent professionals. If you want to be a professional footballer these days you have to behave like a professional in all respects. If you don't want to sign up for that, good luck finding another club because we don't want or need you. And dead right too.
If we do go up we will likely struggle unless we miraculously treble our fan base overnight and double the stadium size, or get in an Oligarch and bust FFP wide open. That is obvious, and the reasons for it are obvious. We will have a fraction of the budget of almost all of our rivals. That makes it very difficult to succeed. Simple.
If we go up and struggle, the knives will be out for Warne (and probably Stewart as well) in a flash. Totally unfair and very sad, but true.
Smiler - don't worry mate, I'm disappointed in myself! However, I found it quite cathartic and a means of overcoming the nerves in advance of Wednesday night! Should we be successful, I shudder to think what advice will be given to PW regarding team selection for Wembley. Perhaps Miller Bear up top with Smudger?!
Disappointed you've overlooked Miller Bear - is it because he has an attitude problem or an aversion to cones and tea?
 Not one of Warneys Boys. Looking at his physique I suspect he is more scones and tea than cones and tea. I noticed that the lady in the pink (amongst other colours) woolly hat hasn't been around to help him lately. I think it is the mascot equivalent of training with the reserves.
i must admit i do wonder why rotherham has this attitude of not blooding the young players
apart from yates bailey king and warren have never played regular
 It is disappointing HM. I genuinely think that under Evans the club went backwards in terms of player development. Redfearn was chosen to reverse that but wasn't given time. Same with Stubbs. Who knows under Warne? We have a younger squad than we have had for a while but still no home grown talent. I suspect it is harder for us to compete with more glamorous and better funded youth set ups and perhaps we have more chance of picking up young players rejected by bigger clubs who we think still have a chance to make it than actually spotting and developing our own. It's a difficult one. I am all for Ben Wiles getting his chance if he looks good enough. I just don't think it would be fair on the kid to throw him into our biggest game of the season.
It is a shame but unless a young player is truly exceptional, the play-offs or a relegation fight are not good news for their development.
A better scenario for a young youth team player trying to break into the first team is for the club to be sitting mid table with two or three games to go and no chance of going either up or down.
Apparently King Ronnie who gets paid to give his views on players doesn't rate Palmer. He's not the only one.
Wouldn't play Palmer tomorrow. Depends whose fit. Smith is the only striker who looks good enough we've got. I'm thinking about playing Mattock as the holding midfield player. He's aggressive, not slow. Side tomorrow Rodak Emmanuel Ajayi Wood Purrington Williams Towell Vaulks Mattock Newell Smith.
See what league we are in regards Dom Ball. He won't be coming back in league 1. Have a look at Hinds Wiles Bailey-King when back in pre-season & the friendly's.
Mattock as '' the holding midfield player''? Why not try Ajayi in the hole just behind Smith? Flaming firkins!
Wouldn't have said it but Mattock is one of the better footballers at the club. Don't think it would be a problem to him.Â
 You've said many times that players shouldn't be played out of position.
Why in Gods name would you want to play a left back in central midfield for the first time in his career in our biggest game of the season?
King Ronnie didn't rate Vaulks either. He has said several times since we got him that Vaulks doesn't do it for him. I could be wrong but I think Ronnie released Vaulks at Tranmere. I haven't heard Ronnie say he doesn't rate Palmer but even if he has (whisper it) he isn't always right.
Mattock as '' the holding midfield player''? Why not try Ajayi in the hole just behind Smith? Flaming firkins!
Wouldn't have said it but Mattock is one of the better footballers at the club. Don't think it would be a problem to him.Â
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I cant see that at all. He is certainly a decent pro but hopelessly one sided and doesnt read the game well enough I would suggest...where do I stop...He is somewhat unbalanced , has played his career down one side with one dimensional balls and tiny overlaps and perhaps his strongest asset is getting reasonable deep and sometimes he delivers a good cross. This for me is his one advantage over purrington but (you know how its all ying and yang) it also means he can get caught out of position and a midfielder (should) has to cover. Â
