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hillsborough miller
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well except for been gwru which u have admitted

apologies if offended

 

in regards warney he is just starting out evans was established when he came here along with his baggage

 

i am judging warne on his results like i judged evans on his and so far in league one he has been a success

championship wont be just down to warne but also tony he has to back him financially with attracting the type of player top become an established championship team

 

 



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Heard the podcast when we had Noble from Exeter was it? - he was going on about when we got battered 6-2 by Port Vale, and the ensuing crisis meeting after, how all the players were saying Evans was making them all lack confidence in themselves. When 'Nobe's then said all you do is talk about Crawley, nobody gives a stuff, and Evo's response was you couldn't have got in the Crawly team, Nobe's said wouldn't want to they're a pub team, Evo took offence and ordered him out.

All this was happening in the Rotherham United dressing room. He is a dictator, Warney is not, lets give Warney the time and then lets see who ends up being more successful / working more consistently at a higher level. (Atlhough you will need to remember this post for the next 20yrs to make it fair!)

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Saw Noble being interviewed on a boat with his teams celebration of some victory I forget - but he was of the chav' attitude and lacked respect as chavvy people do. But he did OK for us back in the day - his "attitude" off the pitch probably kept him to the lower leagues - not bovvered about the extra effort required higher up the pyramid.

One thing with EVO is he knew his players and when they wanted too much he said NO go somewhere else and get it if you can - quite a few times they did go elsewhere and failed.

EVO lost his playing legs early and decided to be a manager then and studied the skills of "management" ever since. Compare Warnsey - he was known to be a clock in - clock out fitness coach wanting to spend time with his family - WHICH IS GREAT. But EVO travelled to us and lived here - forgoing his family - missing his girls for his ART!

Warnsey didn't want the job while EVO would knock down walls and sacrifice players who wouldn't / couldn't respond to his way.

What do they say:

One volunteer is worth ten conscripts?



-- Edited by Bornamiller on Wednesday 7th of March 2018 01:40:52 PM

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Surely we've done SE to death now? Some of us think he did ok and others disagree.

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Bournmiller or whatever he's called really really hates Warne doesn't he.

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Reckon bornamiller = Paul Raynor.

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if its was raynor wouldnt his name be evo poodle



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It's bloody sad that when PW has exceeded everyone's expectations and when we have a very good chance of making the play-offs or better (when I predicted 10th place) that we get criticism of him for valuing his family and being a 9-5 man (really, that's news to me) and Evans is still lauded.  Forget Evans and give a decent bloke like PW a fair chance for goodness sake.  As I've said elsewhere...agendas.



-- Edited by ridgeway kid on Thursday 8th of March 2018 05:08:08 PM

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It isn't as simple as some people thinking that he did a good job and others not. There are some RUFC supporters who didn't want Evans before he came and would have happily had him leave at any time, even if he was winning every game. There is a section of fans at PUFC expressing the same opinion now.

There was a Court of Appeal case published today - Wingate & Anor v The Solicitors Regulation Authority. The case was about the word 'integrity' and what it means, and whether or not integrity is the same thing as honesty. The outcome was that integrity means (to paraphrase) 'honesty plus'. It is about adhering to high moral standards not only in what a person says, but what they do. According to the Court, you can't claim to have acted with integrity just because you are not a crook. It is a much higher hurdle than that.

Steve Evans describes himself as a man of integrity.

You can have a view on Warne as a manager, but as a man he is someone that you have to like and have to root for because he seems to have integrity as defined above, and seems to represent himself and the club well. 



-- Edited by smiler on Thursday 8th of March 2018 05:51:37 PM

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Smiler, had I known you were a lawyer I would not have described you as a "good bloke"!biggrin  When I started watching football (c. 1962) I think you could still use the word "integrity" in regard to the game but I'm not sure you can now.  Everything is about money even - as I said on an OT thread - the sickening hypocricy of presenters and pundits in the pocket of betting firms.



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I could write a thesis about lawyers and integrity Kid. The truth (and I try to retain my own integrity at all times) is that I am not a lawyer but see them very close up in my working life and need to know what goes on in that world, so I take and read The Gazette.

Funnily enough one of the Appellants in the case I referred to was called Steven Evans, but not the one we waste so much time talking about.

There is still a spectrum of integrity Kid and even if it must be hard to keep your head above water in modern football, some manage it better than others. We all know about Evans' scrapes with different authorities, but it isn't just that, it is things like the stuff he says in the media, constant haranguing from the touchline etc. Just not my cup of tea. Each to their own.

Mick McCarthy would be someone who I would rate as being up there on the integrity scale. If ever there was a man of his word, I would think it might be him.

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Didn't MM give us Moore for the season and then recall him for sale at Christmas?

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NewYorkshire wrote:

Didn't MM give us Moore for the season and then recall him for sale at Christmas?

 No.  He loaned us Moore with an option to recall him if he wanted to.  If the right to recall him wasn't written into the deal, he wouldn't have been able to do it.  Can't fault him for that.  We knew what we were signing up to.  If anything I would suggest that MM did right by us, giving us fair warning that they were going to recall Moore so we could make other plans.  Not sure he really had to do that.



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So Smiler, in summary, are you saying that Steve Evans has the same level of integrity as the Sky Cycling Team doctor?!

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GlennMiller wrote:

So Smiler, in summary, are you saying that Steve Evans has the same level of integrity as the Sky Cycling Team doctor?!

 I'm not totally on top of the Sky story Glenn, but something stinks there by the look of it. 

I am not a fan of Evans.

 

 



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A man of integrity, does not shout about it at every opportunity (like Evans). The man that does, aint got it.

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As the thread title says... Evans=tool. Can't abide the self publicising arrogant foul mouthed git. He's apparently signed a "long term" contract at Peterborough. Don't hold your breath Posh fans.

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