I personally think if mattock not fit it will be Purrington or ithiewe at left back
So bench will price ***mings Williams Taylor Lavery purrington or ithiewe Palmer wiles no blaster Harris so room for wiles now
Hope we dispel the theory that it's all Warney's boys. Got to go on ability. Be a near if not capacity crowd. Play a proper left back. Mattock or Purrington. Doncaster are doing better this season than I thought they would so pick our strongest side playing players not out of position.
I don't think many people hold the theory that its all Warney's boys. Ability is obviously important but a bunch of talented players who can't be arsed will get you nowhere. There is a balance to strike. Team spirit and a sense of togetherness go a long way. I think most people get that.
Generally speaking, I don't like to see players playing out of position unless there is no other reasonable option. If Ihiekwe is preferred to a fit Purrington at left back, I would take that as an indication that Purrington doesn't have the manager's confidence and won't be here past the Summer.
You say T71 that players shouldn't be played out of position. But you criticised Warne's bench because you say Vaulks can cover right back. But I have seen you say many times that Vaulks MUST (my emphasis added) play in midfield because in your opinion he is the main man there. I don't follow your logic. It seems to be contradictory.
***mings is an experienced and very versatile defender. If he is fit he provides cover across the back four. As does Ihiekwe for that matter.
I think the idea of playing three centre backs with Forde and Newell as wing backs, three in midfield and two up front is an interesting one, but its probably too late in the season now to give it a go.
-- Edited by smiler on Wednesday 21st of February 2018 09:32:25 PM
Warney's boys is just a flippant comment that's easy to roll out when 'your' players don't make it into the starting eleven. As a manager, PW has a style of play which he wishes to achieve and, better than anyone else associated with the club, will know the type of player that is capable of achieving that style. (BTW - for style include tactics, ability, application, fitness, teamwork, etc etc). The players chosen to play that style of football are known as the starting eleven - not Warney's boys!
The left back position is the only position around which there is any uncertainty at the moment. Some have commented that Cu mmings could fill in - he's a right back but has he got any history of operating on the left? Although I would prefer a dedicated left sided player to replace an injured Mattock, if Purrington is not considered to have what it takes to play the 'style', I respect Warne's decision to give the spot to Iheikwe. Playing a right footed left back does put a lot of responsibility on Newell to track back and help out, but he appears to have been doing that well recently.
I could be wrong Glenn but when we signed Cu mmings Warne said that he was predominantly a right back but had filled in at left back and indeed centre back before. I've got no problem with Warne picking whoever he thinks is best there. I just remember that Ihiekwe played at left back at the Keepmoat and had a difficult afternoon. Having said that, Purrington is obviously not impressing behind the scenes and hasn't really impressed when given a chance, and Cu mmings isn't a natural on that side.
Hopefully Mattock will be fit to play and we won't have to think about who to play in his place. That is a sentence that three or four months ago I couldn't have imagined typing. Mattock has been good since Christmas. He still occasionally dives in (in my opinion) but he is very clearly the first choice left back now.
Not a flippant comment, if they are not Warney's boys why is best striker at the club at Coventry. Ihiewke at left back against Oxford only got by cause of the opposition being no threat. ***mings has never been fit while he's been here. Vaulks is the man in midfield but we have Palmer on the bench so Vaulks can cover right back. Sooner have a left back on the bench. Don't get me wrong I'm more than happy with our league position this season. Just Warney's moral code, running round cones will only get you so far. When it matters ability will win the day.
Please please can we move on and stop referring to Blaster Harris and other ex players. Unfortunately for both parties it just didn't work out successfully and he never was the best striker at the club or likely to be and his stats on that speak for itself.
He was in my opinion an expensive panic buy by Evans along with Bowery
everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it but we don't need it repeating
-- Edited by hillsborough miller on Thursday 22nd of February 2018 12:32:19 PM
I don't think many people hold the theory that its all Warney's boys. Ability is obviously important but a bunch of talented players who can't be arsed will get you nowhere. There is a balance to strike. Team spirit and a sense of togetherness go a long way. I think most people get that.
Generally speaking, I don't like to see players playing out of position unless there is no other reasonable option. If Ihiekwe is preferred to a fit Purrington at left back, I would take that as an indication that Purrington doesn't have the manager's confidence and won't be here past the Summer.
You say T71 that players shouldn't be played out of position. But you criticised Warne's bench because you say Vaulks can cover right back. But I have seen you say many times that Vaulks MUST (my emphasis added) play in midfield because in your opinion he is the main man there. I don't follow your logic. It seems to be contradictory.
***mings is an experienced and very versatile defender. If he is fit he provides cover across the back four. As does Ihiekwe for that matter.
I think the idea of playing three centre backs with Forde and Newell as wing backs, three in midfield and two up front is an interesting one, but its probably too late in the season now to give it a go.
-- Edited by smiler on Wednesday 21st of February 2018 09:32:25 PM
when he kept playing forde on the right and he was not performing the winger job of beating the left back and putting decent crosses into the box i can see where some posters where coming from with the warney boys comment
but it has took time and confidence who would want forde dropped now
Not a flippant comment, if they are not Warney's boys why is best striker at the club at Coventry. Ihiewke at left back against Oxford only got by cause of the opposition being no threat. ***mings has never been fit while he's been here. Vaulks is the man in midfield but we have Palmer on the bench so Vaulks can cover right back. Sooner have a left back on the bench. Don't get me wrong I'm more than happy with our league position this season. Just Warney's moral code, running round cones will only get you so far. When it matters ability will win the day.
It is a totally flippant comment T71. You talk about running round cones because of Warne's history as a fitness coach, but do you go down to Roundwood and watch them train on a daily basis? Do you see the work that they do whether physical conditioning or technical? I doubt that you do. In any case there is nothing wrong with demanding a minimum level and commitment fro your players. Ability is no good if you can't get into good positions because you are blowing out of your backside.
Not a flippant comment, if they are not Warney's boys why is best striker at the club at Coventry. Ihiewke at left back against Oxford only got by cause of the opposition being no threat. ***mings has never been fit while he's been here. Vaulks is the man in midfield but we have Palmer on the bench so Vaulks can cover right back. Sooner have a left back on the bench. Don't get me wrong I'm more than happy with our league position this season. Just Warney's moral code, running round cones will only get you so far. When it matters ability will win the day.
It is a totally flippant comment T71. You talk about running round cones because of Warne's history as a fitness coach, but do you go down to Roundwood and watch them train on a daily basis? Do you see the work that they do whether physical conditioning or technical? I doubt that you do. In any case there is nothing wrong with demanding a minimum level and commitment fro your players. Ability is no good if you can't get into good positions because you are blowing out of your backside.
T71 - does the T stand for Tedious? It's boring, it's irrelevant and it's history!
it could be but let me say this
banters is a friendly board but everybody will eventually tire of repetitive comments. opinions and posts are good for the friendly discussion that makes this board more civilized but patient eventually wears out
lets get behind warne who has created a working winning ethos in the team of lions he has created and apart from the blip in October has come back roaring
-- Edited by hillsborough miller on Thursday 22nd of February 2018 02:21:23 PM
Am I wrong or is JCH only on loan at Coventry? I agree he had issues and there was an opportunity to give him a run in the team recently when we played Ball & Yates week after week to no avail. I hoped at the time that we would give him a run of games as a 1-2 with Ball but it never happened. Given how poor Yates is (he isn't L1 standard at this time) I have to think there were other factors that meant PW was not keen on bringing JCH back into the team - maybe he's disruptive, argumentative, lazy (or all of them!) but we had a need for his "type" and PW kept him out, so there's more to it.
Anyway time will tell but I doubt he'll wear a red n white shirt Millers shirt again.
I'm not winding anyone up just my opinions. I want to make MM regret banning me cause that site looks dead without me. I'm not anything but I'm real. Lets get to the end of the season see were we are. I'm there sat' as all home games. Cheltenham 13th next month bring it on!
That’s me done then T71 obviously got banned for repetitive posts now on here doing it.
1 down more to come I guess and he says he’s not on awind up?
Later good luck with him cause I ain’t playing his games.
