A lot of football clubs do have a small minority of knuckle dragging followers. They are cringe worthy. The last time I went to Gresty

Road Stewart Evans played for The Millers. This would have been in the early 1990's before Stewart went on to sign for Crewe. On

that day I sat amongst the Crewe supporters in the South Stand. Three drunken Rotherham followers were sat directly in front of me.

They made it very clear that they were from Rotherham. Throughout the first half they were effing and jeffing and verbally abusing the

Crewe supporters sat closest to them. I was surprised that it didn't lead to fisticuffs. It didn't.

After half-time these drunkards did not return to their seats. They had, I was informed, been ejected from the ground.

Why I don't overly like going to football matches anymore, especially experiencing what you get at the Steelers. Not only is it embarrassing - I don't want to be labelled as part of it.

There was a time I went up and down the country, we had a club reputation that we were a noisy but jovial bunch - that was nice - but this has gone with big time charley elder teens / early 20s thinking we're summat massive cos we have a nice stadium (and also probably what these people have only experienced - not DVS and certainly not Millmoor).

Don't see it getting any better either

Horses for courses, and I understand that it is family friendly and they do a great job of that, but having been a few times I find the Steelers experience a bit too artificial and transplanted-from-the-USA for my liking.

It might be nostalgia kicking in, but when I was between 18 and say 30 I used to go to a lot of away games and have a beer or two and probably behave in a way that would make me cringe now, but I always knew that there were boundaries. I was never as out of it as you describe Brad (and I have seen a lot of them too), and certainly not as aggressive as the idiots we are talking about.

Its a mob mentality isn't it that makes people think they can behave in a football crowd in a way that they would never behave otherwise. The police are happy to tolerate it provided it is controlled in a small space that they can manage. It is plain wrong.

First away game Saturday you lads making me feel little apprehensive.
Shame they are unable to go and enjoy day out at away games .

I've never been put off by travelling to away games. In fact some of the drunken behaviour I've witnessed over the years at away games has been quite amusing, sad but amusing. Some of the drunks don't know who's playing or the names of the players on the pitch. It's their idea of a good day out though. They're 'happy in the haze of a drunken hour'.....to quote some lyrics from a Morrissey song.

NewYorkshire wrote:

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Hopefully we won't be singing the next line of that song Saturday

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I hope we're going to be 'Shiny Happy People' - R.E.M

Just a note on the crowd at the Doncaster game.

The shine was taken off the day a bit by the idiots from both clubs who went at each other before the game in town and afterwards on the road that led away from the ground towards town. These were (on both sides) mainly twenty-ish year olds. It was more than just shouting and there were reasonable numbers involved. There were plenty who would have run at the first hint of real bother, but a few were clearly up for it. It would have been ugly without the handful of police who were there (and horses) sorting it out.

A special mention must go to the mindless millers morons who were throwing half bricks and bottles into a mixed group of innocent supported from both sides which included a number of very frightened children.

I know this sort of thing has gone on for years. To be honest, personally I don't mind if the k**bheads on both sides want to kick seven shades of it out of each other on some waste ground somewhere. Just don't drag innocent decent people and their children into it.

Surely the club gets feedback from the police? No doubt this sort of drunken thuggery is creeping back in. The club could do worse than make a public statement condemning it and/or working with the police to shame people by publicising images of those involved. They were all being filmed. Get people prosecuted and banned.