Especially after being 3-1 down after 40 minutes. Credit to PW for sorting it out at HT.
Double our away goal tally, first draw of the season, first point gained after going behind, well pleased with that. MASSIVE respect to the 600+ Millers fans there.
Yeah - great effort today. We looked doomed at 3-1 down. We have missed Frecks and Potter desperately this week and I'm afraid Vaulks is not a great replacement. He'll be out for the next game after getting another yellow today so it will be interesting to see how the midfield works against Gillingham. Joe Newell seems to have got his mojo back which is a major bonus. Hopefully PW will be able to field his first XI next Saturday and we should then be back to winning ways.
Good point in the end against a decent side in horrible conditions.
Having Taylor back as an option is a positive. We really need Potter back - I'm afraid Vaulks is no substitute, game though he is. Potter gets us playing a bit because he is composed on the ball and he keeps it simple. Without him we tend to go too long to Moore too often.
I feel a bit for O'Donnell. He hasn't done a lot wrong and I'm not convinced Rodak is better.
The top two have made a bolt for it, but the teams who had games in hand behind us are dropping points so the table still looks healthy for us.
Clearly the spirit is in the squad to come back from 3-1 down is tremendous, but again we are shipping goals. It seems the balance in the squad is just about right except for the defence, which has been the achilles heel throughout and has to be a priority come January.
Horrible conditions to play football ball in, but a good point at the end of the day. The back four struggled first half but seemed to get it together as the game went on.
Good displays from Forde and Williams, Taylor's harrying was great to watch when he came on and contributed immensely to our third goal.
Newell, as stated on previous post's, is something else, another superb goal and his ball for the third goal was just class, in my opinion he absolutely ran the first half and should be given a contract extension before he is 'nicked' by another club ASAP.
I know Newell is given stick for not being 'consistent' but, if you beat 3 or 4 players every game and scored volley's from 30 yards each week, you would be at Real Madrid and not Rotherham!
While the defence might be on the end of a bit today, Oxford time and time and time again came at us with quick give and go passing football in the central area 35 > 20 yards out and we did absolutely nothing about it in the 1st half. I'm sure Warney would have had a right go at half time as it really was unacceptable and Vaulks / Towel didn't cover themselves in any kind of glory. While it was better 2nd half there were still 2 or 3 occasions they got through and the 2 centre backs got zilch protection. I don't remember a time where Oxford used the width of the that massive pitch, they aren't exactly blessed with much pace. Having said that we created next to nothing and it bodes well for us that despite creating not a lot we've still scored 3 goals, and credit to the lads the 3rd goal was another absolutely superb team goal and real credit must go to the management for getting the players to play that kind of football.
Pleased with a point we really shouldn't have had after that 1st half. I've got no idea why that pen was given. From what I saw no way is that a pen but justice was served.
Agreed Ex, at the time I could not see why a penalty was given but, from where we were sat (behind the incident) I thought it must have struck the hand. Now however, having watched it on TV, no way should that have been given and justice was served by it being saved.
Watching the highlights on TV, two things struck me. Firstly, the penalty decision was a real shocker. It may have hit Vaulks on the hand but he was closing in on the player from a yard away with his arms by his side. Terrible decision. Secondly, Rodak didn't do well on their second goal. He was caught totally flat footed.
I am an admirer of Newell. He has a bit of quality on the ball that nobody else on our squad has. I would urge Warney to give him an extended run in the side.
The penalty decision just shows how ridiculous the current rules are. My understanding is that it needs to be hand to ball or the hand needs to be in an unnatural position when the ball strikes it. The ref has to adjudicate and the interpretation, judging by the instances where penalties haven't been given, is very wide! The only way to overcome this is to make it a penalty offence if the ball strikes the hand in the penalty area - end of. Rodak's save was excellent - just surprised he didn't punch it!
The rules take into account proximity to the ball being struck, speed of the ball and ability to get outta the way. Seeing as Vaulks was a yard a way, arms by his side and ball travel time was milliseconds it is a truly awful decision - but now moot Rodak double bluffed the pen taker showing him which way he was gonna go, making the taker think hes going the other way but went that way anyway - good goalkeeping, but as Smiler said, only evened up as he was very flat footed for the 2nd, had that been O'Donnell the knives would have been out.
A penalty is a 70% or 80% prospect of a goal. I don't think they can be given lightly because the consequences of giving a penalty impact a game so heavily. For me, a foul has to be clear and obvious in the area for a penalty to be given, and a handball has to be blatantly deliberate. That might include deliberately spreading your arms out unnaturally for example when blocking a shot ie putting your hand/arm in an unnatural position. I don't think you can have a policy that says that any contact between ball and hand/arm is automatically a penalty, because you would end up with players aiming the ball at opponents to try and win one - a bit like hockey players aiming at feet to win a penalty corner. There would be too many cheap spot kicks and it would become a farce. At the end of the day, I don't think there is a lot wrong with the rule as it is. We just need more consistent officiating, and better decision making. Someone should be sitting down with whoever that ref was yesterday and telling him why he got it wrong, which he plainly did.
On Newell, I think we have to find a place for him. I am increasingly coming round to the idea of him playing centrally. Get him on the ball as much as possible. A midfield with Potter holding and any two of Newell, Towell and Frecklington (on current form probably Towell and Newell) getting forward ahead of him to support Moore looks potent to me. Any two of Taylor, Forde and Williams wide (probably Williams and Taylor). Bingo. I know people think Newell can go missing at times, but I think that his languid style can make that look worse than it is, and in a three he would have enough around him to make that not such an issue. I think you play your best players, and for me Newell is the best we have.
Smiler - perhaps the only way the penalty issue will be resolved satisfactorily is when we have a video ref who can make the call?
Agree that Newell now needs to be starting. I'd like to see him working on the left, Williams on the right and Frecks/Potter more central. If those four all fire, it's a fantastic midfield.
Warnie's problem is then how to fit Towell, Taylor and Ball into the side. I would start with Towell alongside Moore up front and introduce Taylor and Ball later in the game depending how things were going. Forde and Vaulks would be definite benchwarmers.
I'm in the Vaulks camp. He'd play everytime for me. We need Potter. January we are going to have to look for cover for him. Those 2 players you know what you are going to get. Newell goes missing. Frecks is at the end of his career. Towell is a safer bet. Left side is our problem. For now Williams there with Taylor on the Right.
For me Vaulks is at best versatile cover for better players, but I get that we all see things differently. Maybe it is about getting the right balance. I guess that one of the good features of the squad at the moment is that we have different sorts of players to put in and out of the side as needed, and can still get results against the likes of Scunny and Oxford with two or three midfield regulars out injured.
I think everyone agrees that Potter is important for us. According to The Star he is fit for Saturday, which is good news especially as Vaulks is out serving a suspension.
A lot of the teams around us are playing each other this weekend or have really tough fixtures, so without wanting to underestimate Gillingham we need to look towards turning them over on Saturday and strengthening our top 6 spot.