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There is a story today about a court ruling against gender segregation in a faith school.  It happened to be a muslim school but apparently the ruling affects a number of other different faith schools involving other religions.

That is an interesting ruling, but I have to say that the idea of faith schools is a bugbear of mine.

Schools should be secular.  I accept that we can't stop children being indoctrinated on a daily basis at home, but systematic indoctrination at school is a disgrace.  Children should be taught about religion as part of the curriculum, so that they have a fair understanding not only of what the features of the main religions and their histories are, but from a neutral perspective.  Surely that can only encourage understanding, integration and tolerance - all things that we need more of.

I can't think of a single good reason to allow faith schools to exist in a modern society.



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Won't happen though unless we find the magic money tree? - I was gonna put my boy into a 2nd school one, as he's sport nuts and Olympians, Rugby and Footy stars have all gone pro from there. The equipment and resources throughout the school looked night and day to state school. He would have gone there too had it been closer and a marginally 2nd state school wasn't situated 10mins walk away.

But on the whole I don't agree with them either, but only on the outside looking in, I have no first hand knowledge of what goes in any religious school but I'll make an educated guess that Muslim and the like are less forgiving with teaching of other faiths and incorporating school rules that mirror the laws of their religion and not the land they're built on!

However I also believe most damage is done in the home. The terrorists we see in this country and those involved in that heinous goings on with the grooming, its ingrained in family life, passed down father to son and that is where it is wrong and unfortunately our laws allow it to go on unchecked.

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I too believe schools should be secular, however it suits society to educate to conform. Religion is a system of subservience to a higher order. Obey or else. The philosophy of freedom of thought is to be avoided. The great unwashed who can think for themselves is a dangerous phenomena as they will be able to see through all the guff we are fed and may just upset the established order.




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I think "faith" schools are an anathema and should not be part of any countries education system. It's piggy backing the indoctrination of religious nonsense on the back of real education and validating it as something we should learn. Personally I'd like to see religion banned from education and education stick to positive science based learning with critical thinking and questioning of every subject. Sky God's and 72 virgins should be an amusing thing of the past like ducking stools for witches.

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There will surely be a time when humans will look back and laugh at the idea that we grasped at the idea of a mythical, mystical being of any kind to comfort those of us who don't like the fact that there may be things we can not yet explain.

A mate of mine is a governor at a Catholic Primary School. A look at their website is scary. On the face of it, there are kids being driven through school from the age of 5 onwards on the basis that Catholicism is the basis for everything that they will learn to prepare them for the life ahead of them. It isn't just a weekly assembly or what have you. It is the prime mover for all learning, as is boldly stated in their mission statement.

I don't mean to pick on Roman Catholics. The same applies to all non-secular schools. Indeed my own children went to a mainstream school but they still said prayers and had close ties to the local CofE church because the Head Teacher happened to hold that faith, which was more sinister in a sense because that wasn't a faith school as such so it was 'back-door indoctrination'.

If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable.


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Extreme differences within some faiths tend to start the fires that eventually destroy freethinking.

Paganism is the way to go. I've never yet heard of an extreme Pagan.




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There will surely be a time when humans will look back and laugh at the idea that we grasped at the idea of a mythical, mystical being of any kind to comfort those of us who don't like the fact that there may be things we can not yet explain.

Would we allow our children to be educated by people who promoted the idea of fairies at the bottom of the garden and had Santa flying through the sky on his sleigh pulled by flying reindeer; and although they had never actually seen them (although there would be those who claim they had) they did have a book to prove it?

Would any of us put our kids name down to join such an institution. In my opinion all religious organisations that promote authority from the mystic are little more than quacks. Ancient civilisations were arguably nearer the mark when they worshipped the sun, which of course actually does exist and sustains life on the planet.



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