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Well there you have it boys. The man has spoken. We don't need outside investment from banks or anywhere else and he 's not going anywhere. He intends to see the job through. All's well.

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The TS ego trip continues........hooray!!!

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I think this is good news as long as we learn from our mistakes and do not have Warne as manager next year.

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Look at some of the owners of other clubs. Look what has happened at Portsmouth, Charlton, Coventry, Orient and lots of other clubs where previously unknown (to the supporters) individuals have ridden to into town. Have a look at some of the debts that other clubs have amassed that in many cases will com back to haunt them.

I am happy enough that we have got relative stability and a local man in charge who seems to have his head screwed on.

I think constructive criticism of some of the mistakes the club has made is fair enough, but some of the borderline and in some cases real abuse directed at Tony Stewart on the back of five years of growth followed by one (admittedly very) bad year is a bit hysterical and frankly bang out of order in my opinion.

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Agree Smiler, I put it down to disappointment and frustration of the season and the fact that over the last few years our expectations have risen.

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A word of caution.

The facts and the current situation reveal exactly where we are. The conclusion is that the owners of the club have not progressed in any way the football on the pitch over the last 3 seasons.

Now for some speculation.

Deterioration does not just happen. It is managed.

When one is forced to defend a position one can be certain that pressure is starting to become unmanageable. The no smoke without fire metaphor is well versed.

All TS has done here is rehash the same things he has been saying and that unfortunately is not news and its not an improvement.

Currently we are on a downward spiral.

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Yes we are and we wont know until the manager announcement and next year. but I believe that TS wants us to do well and will put as many resources as he can to ensure success.

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Perhaps if he and the board had been more forthright in their view of things throughout this dismal, chaotic and outrageous excuse of a season then perhaps he would have deflected most of the criticism that has been generated. The mistakes after mistakes, the bizarre goings on has been more like Fred Karno's meets the Keystone Cops, rather than a professional Championship Club. You can't defend the indefenceable.

Humiliation does not even begin to describe the depth of despair most of us have felt as our club; and it is our club, not the chairmans, or the managers or the players, its ours, has been allowed to descend in to a circus of the absurd. How else can fans react when we are given neither rhyme nor reason about what is happening off field. All we see is what happens on the field and how the league table looks - thats all we have to go on. Where was the statements of intent, where were the words of encouragement, where was the rallying call to the supporters…………………silence. The worst season of football in my time as a supporter of 57 years and there has been some bad un's, the worst run of results since 1927 or thereabouts and not a word. Till now when the show is truly over bar the shouting.

Do I believe him ? I honestly don't know. I did believe him at the start of the season when I believed that lessons had been learned from the advice of Warnock plus the two years of experience gained, I thought we were on the cusp of a new epoch of our club..but no. Same old rabbit stuck in the headlights unable to decide which way to go but down.

No one has ever expected the chairman to get the club into debt, we're not stupid. We don't want Championship football at ANY cost, we're just glad to still be here. We don't even mind him talking things up and putting a positive spin on things. All we want is a bit of honesty and a bit more interaction, neither of which costs anything!!

Well we shall see. I have been very critical of the chairman this season and at times a little cynical but never abusive, its not my way thats why I abandoned MM to be with this forum. But we can only hope for once that lessons have truly been learned and this diabolical laughing stock of a season long performance has just been a 'blip'.

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I think the information age we live in - misinformation or even no information is utterly dangerous.

Take Warney's cringingly honest statement about he'd understand if the fans threw stuff at him while clapping them at the end of QPR. While this is brutal testament to how much he wears his heart on his sleeve & how deep rooted he is in this football club, no manager of any level would ever publicly announce such a statement. It's almost akin to joking with airport security you've got a bomb up your backside. While he states that he's a fitness coach, he's no manager behind closed doors he'll really be wanting to see if he can cut it. While he has an awful hand to play with you can still bluff at poker, and I'm afraid I don't think he can do that. It takes a specific person to be a manager, it's utterly different to coaching. He should get his old role back post haste no hard feelings. Warney will still run through treacle for this football club, and there aren't many people around like that. Let's put him back to where his Sports Science degree and headless chicken ethos benefits the players and the club most, not in an unfamiliar role just because he's been asked to by the big boss man.

As for TS, any and I mean any personal abuse / insults is disgusting and against the law. While we can make our own judgements on the decision making (without ever knowing the full facts / politics / ins & outs), this does not give permission to ever resort to such things and thankfully - you lot are a good bunch on here and to date I haven't seen anything of the like. While I wonder about the 'lessons learned' etc etc, TS is by any stretch of the imagination a successful business man, and far from being unsuitable for the position. And so I refer to the first line of this post, it will be very interesting to see what comes out after the SWFC game, what questions are answered and indeed what information is given. There is nothing wrong with a bit of honesty, if we can't afford to be in this league then do say so - there's no harm in that, but do tell us how we can be sustainable because if the numbers don't add up the board will sure as hell know, but what they also should know is how they can add up - and it's that I think we want to hear.

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A wonderfully unemotional balanced view of what every Millers fan is thinking, unfortunately I can't put my view across WITHOUT getting emotional. Kudos Exeter.

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Manager announcement after international break, it's got to be warne hasn't it!!! Nobody else available?

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I don't think it's right making personal insults against TS however his decision making this season does appear to be that of someone completely outside his area of expertise and has been calamitous. From NWs will he/won't he to Stubbs to KJ and eventually to PW, his final and biggest mistake. Once he made the fitness guy the coach we all knew the writing was on the wall and so did the players. The problem is 99% of fans (or more) don't think PW is the man for the job (nice guy, miller, hard worker etc) and it's frustrating to see such decisions by our top guy - he needed a guiding hand to advise him on some of this and clearly there is no one in his circle that can. If he gives him the job after the SWFC match (bizarrely this is a date of significance) then I think we are going to have a rough time. I don't have the stats but I'm assuming PWs record is as bad as Stubbs now or worse so if he gets the nod we need a proper reason why - not he's got the DNA of the club in him etc. We all have that but are equally unqualified.

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i noticed the barbed comment at jackett

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Towdlad wrote:

Perhaps if he and the board had been more forthright in their view of things throughout this dismal, chaotic and outrageous excuse of a season then perhaps he would have deflected most of the criticism that has been generated. The mistakes after mistakes, the bizarre goings on has been more like Fred Karno's meets the Keystone Cops, rather than a professional Championship Club. You can't defend the indefenceable.

Humiliation does not even begin to describe the depth of despair most of us have felt as our club; and it is our club, not the chairmans, or the managers or the players, its ours, has been allowed to descend in to a circus of the absurd. How else can fans react when we are given neither rhyme nor reason about what is happening off field. All we see is what happens on the field and how the league table looks - thats all we have to go on. Where was the statements of intent, where were the words of encouragement, where was the rallying call to the supporters…………………silence. The worst season of football in my time as a supporter of 57 years and there has been some bad un's, the worst run of results since 1927 or thereabouts and not a word. Till now when the show is truly over bar the shouting.

Do I believe him ? I honestly don't know. I did believe him at the start of the season when I believed that lessons had been learned from the advice of Warnock plus the two years of experience gained, I thought we were on the cusp of a new epoch of our club..but no. Same old rabbit stuck in the headlights unable to decide which way to go but down.

No one has ever expected the chairman to get the club into debt, we're not stupid. We don't want Championship football at ANY cost, we're just glad to still be here. We don't even mind him talking things up and putting a positive spin on things. All we want is a bit of honesty and a bit more interaction, neither of which costs anything!!

Well we shall see. I have been very critical of the chairman this season and at times a little cynical but never abusive, its not my way thats why I abandoned MM to be with this forum. But we can only hope for once that lessons have truly been learned and this diabolical laughing stock of a season long performance has just been a 'blip'.


 agree 100% with everything in this post Towd. UTM



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Perhaps if he and the board had been more forthright in their view of things throughout this dismal, chaotic and outrageous excuse of a season then perhaps he would have deflected most of the criticism that has been generated. The mistakes after mistakes, the bizarre goings on has been more like Fred Karno's meets the Keystone Cops, rather than a professional Championship Club. You can't defend the indefenceable.

Humiliation does not even begin to describe the depth of despair most of us have felt as our club; and it is our club, not the chairmans, or the managers or the players, its ours, has been allowed to descend in to a circus of the absurd. How else can fans react when we are given neither rhyme nor reason about what is happening off field. All we see is what happens on the field and how the league table looks - thats all we have to go on. Where was the statements of intent, where were the words of encouragement, where was the rallying call to the supporters…………………silence. The worst season of football in my time as a supporter of 57 years and there has been some bad un's, the worst run of results since 1927 or thereabouts and not a word. Till now when the show is truly over bar the shouting.

Do I believe him ? I honestly don't know. I did believe him at the start of the season when I believed that lessons had been learned from the advice of Warnock plus the two years of experience gained, I thought we were on the cusp of a new epoch of our club..but no. Same old rabbit stuck in the headlights unable to decide which way to go but down.

No one has ever expected the chairman to get the club into debt, we're not stupid. We don't want Championship football at ANY cost, we're just glad to still be here. We don't even mind him talking things up and putting a positive spin on things. All we want is a bit of honesty and a bit more interaction, neither of which costs anything!!

Well we shall see. I have been very critical of the chairman this season and at times a little cynical but never abusive, its not my way thats why I abandoned MM to be with this forum. But we can only hope for once that lessons have truly been learned and this diabolical laughing stock of a season long performance has just been a 'blip'.


 agree 100% with everything in this post Towd. UTM


 ditto we may be faithful fans to the club we love but not blind 



-- Edited by hillsborough miller on Wednesday 22nd of March 2017 11:52:48 AM

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hillsborough miller wrote:

i noticed the barbed comment at jackett


 It was shameful really wanst it. I mean what Jackett did.

 

Cant ever get my respect back. There are ways of moving on from a football club but thats not one of them. 

 



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jackett seemed a fighter but turned out to be a .............................. fill in the blanks

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I think Jackett was sold a pack of dreams and found out it was all BS, dont blame him one bit for jumping ship. He had targets for each position and my guess is was told no chance mate. Had F all to do with loosing to Leeds

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I suspect that was more the case gas, he was unlikely to walk just because of a few poor games.

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