Ian - our transfer processes are so antiquated that I doubt if anyone involved knows what a 'bung' is! I'm with Brad here, this is Rotherham's best chance of survival this season.
Ian - our transfer processes are so antiquated that I doubt if anyone involved knows what a 'bung' is! I'm with Brad here, this is Rotherham's best chance of survival this season.
If anything, with the signings we make, we should get an award from the FA for taking people off the dole and rehabilitating disabled people into society...
Ian - our transfer processes are so antiquated that I doubt if anyone involved knows what a 'bung' is! I'm with Brad here, this is Rotherham's best chance of survival this season.
If anything, with the signings we make, we should get an award from the FA for taking people off the dole and rehabilitating disabled people into society...
To be fair , NYS is doing great things for the community
Yes, agreed, the England manager should be "whiter than white" BUT!!!
I think the manner of the how the allegations came to light are disgusting! These were not interviews, these were diliberate attempts at "conning" people into saying self- incriminating statements.
We all know there is, and probably always have been "bungs" in the game but, in Big Sam's case, these stories have been put together on a "night out", when, I presume, Sam had been sinking the beers and wine and, more than likely bragging and showing off? This meeting was also "secretly filmed", how is that not a breach of privacy rights?
I'm sure we have all said (well me anyway) on a Saturday night stupid things after a skin full and a Millers defeat? Yes, I know I am not the England manager but, these statements were taken, not in an interview when you expect the press to ask difficult questions but, in a social atmosphere where there were hidden agendas, lies and people diliberately trying to set others up for a fall.
I should imagine Sam has, over the years, purchased a copy of the Telegraph? This makes him a customer, the Telegraph have then diliberately gone out to con and lie to a customer to get a story! If I did the same in my role at work, I would be sacked on the spot. But not these journalistic heroes, they consider entrapment, fabrication and disseat as "doing their job"!!!
Of course I do not condone the "back handers" but, I am also not naive enough to think it never went on (and probably always will!). But for me, the reporters were underhanded in setting people up and destroying careers for their own gain, I mean come on, the guy at Barnsley will probably not get another job in the game for what, £5 grand................It leaves a nasty taste in the mouth with how these reporters are able to "skirt" around the law to get a story and promote their own careers, utter gutter press for me!!!
Thank God for freedom of the press and thank God for the quality of investigative journalism in this country. There can't be enough of it for me if it exposes the grubby, greedy, corrupt, hypocritical individuals who are in positions where they should have high standards of morality. The journalists didn't put the words into Allardyce's mouth did they? No he volunteered them in the hope that he could secure another £400k on top of his multi-million pound salary. Absolutely no sympathy for the man and hope that no football club touches him with a barge pole ever again. If we are at a point where we accept corruption in our sport, then we have lost everything.
Only partly agree with you S8 on this one., in so much as exposure to the corruption in the game or in politics (although Tony blair remains untouchable) is a requirement for a (so called) free and open society. I fully support good and honest investigative journalism.
Having said that lets not forget the phone hacking by journalists and other seedy goings on in that particular profession which has caused dreadful anguish to bereaved families such as the Milly Dowler case, and other such cases. If that wasn't bad enough its usually the little guy at the bottom who gets the chop while the rich perpetrators and protected editors seem to get off either scot free of with minor reprimands, only to return once the dust has settled to carry on their dirty work.
I do not think fabricating situations, lying, conning and setting people up is "Freedom of the press", hypocritical comes to mind. And you are right S8, the journalists probably didn't put the words in Sam's mouth, but I bet the questions they asked him were well thought out and rehearsed to do so?
I also agree with you that there is no place in the game for corrupt individuals but, it seems the journalist's can take the moral high ground when it suits them, as I said, a tad hypocritical of our wonderful press who have not covered their selves in glory over the years!
I do not think fabricating situations, lying, conning and setting people up is "Freedom of the press", hypocritical comes to mind. And you are right S8, the journalists probably didn't put the words in Sam's mouth, but I bet the questions they asked him were well thought out and rehearsed to do so? I also agree with you that there is no place in the game for corrupt individuals but, it seems the journalist's can take the moral high ground when it suits them, as I said, a tad hypocritical of our wonderful press who have not covered their selves in glory over the years!
If Allardyce wasn't corruptible then no matter what traps the Journalists laid before him, he wouldn't fallen in to them would he.
Only partly agree with you S8 on this one., in so much as exposure to the corruption in the game or in politics (although Tony blair remains untouchable) is a requirement for a (so called) free and open society. I fully support good and honest investigative journalism.
Having said that lets not forget the phone hacking by journalists and other seedy goings on in that particular profession which has caused dreadful anguish to bereaved families such as the Milly Dowler case, and other such cases. If that wasn't bad enough its usually the little guy at the bottom who gets the chop while the rich perpetrators and protected editors seem to get off either scot free of with minor reprimands, only to return once the dust has settled to carry on their dirty work.
While I would never condone the actions of the News of the World reporters in the Milly Dowler case, the bandwagon jumpers (a few high profile celebs and some very dodgy ne'er do wells) did use it as somewhat of a smokescreen to give the press a good kicking and try to get the government to pass highly controversial regulations that would have consequences for the ability of a free press to investigate the dodgy goings on of people in positions of power or influence and bring them to account.
Some in the industry have their faults and some may be very unsavoury characters themselves, but the alternatives to a free press just don't bear thinking about.
Let the FA set up an inquiry into the claims and counter claims being made. As well as kicking racism out of football they also need to kick out corruption. I'm all in favour.
I get what you are saying Archie and I have some sympathy but if someone asked me how to jump the que (as they do) or get preferential treatment in the NHS , I tell them NO. I stick to the rules . As the old saying goes; two wrongs don't make a right.
Stings can be very persuasive and even misleading but these will be full transcripts not someone editing in words and the like.
Although I'm worldly wise and understand that temptation can get us all what he did was just greedy. It's not even like he was on skid row.
