Allardyce is a symptom of the endemic greed that has ruined the English game. In one utterly stupid moment he has also consigned the future management of the international team to an FA man and the real football men such as Clough and Rednapp will never be trusted to take the helm for at least another generation. The FA will never again trust the job to a man who has a successful footballing background, a successful management career and a down to earth understanding of the players because it cannot afford to risk the reputation of the organisation. It will instead ensure that the in***bent is a trustworthy white collar man who may not know too much about football, but won't expose the FA to public embarrassment. Shame on you Sam - you carried the hopes of many ordinary football fans who wanted to see a real football man in charge of the international team. Instead you turned out to be a bigger prat than the rest of 'em. What's the odds on Phil Neville as the next incapable England manager?!
What a massive greedy two hat. Gets 3.5 mill a year for a toss off job managing the England team (pinnacle of his career etc.) then loses the lot and shames himself forever for 400k dodgy deal. He should be kicked out of football and never let back in. Plus, we will now get Mr Safe Hands in charge and play Rooney until he's 70.
What a dilema. You work in an industry that is awash with filthy Murdoch lucre, that is known to be corrupt throughout the world, 5 will get you 10 or more, betting scams, back handers, bribery and god knows what. Do you as an individual, play the game and take home a wad to the family in used 50s, or do you play by the book; Mr Untouchable. Because I would suggest that by being the good guy you will get nowhere, in the modern game, look at our application to host the World Cup.
Sam was duped, but should he pay the price for an underworld system that we all know goes on each and every day. Do we dump a potentially good manager for principle that only exists in the ether?
I dont defend it by the way. But I do ask the question, in the same position, what would you or I do? a dodgy handshake and I could take home 12 - 14 years of earnings in the time it takes to give a nod or a wink, in a system where everybody is at it.
In answer to your question Towdlad I can hand on heart say that if someone was paying me over three million a year I wouldn't be tempted to risk it for the sake of a conversation about how I might make an extra four hundred thousand on the side. No way. Never. Madness.
Welcome back Smiler. I'd be like you on this issue, only the other day I was in my local paper shop and paid with a tenner, the young lass gave me change for 20, I gave her the tenner back, I just could not have profited from her mistake. Slightly different, but the principle is the same
Its a bit of a conundrum really, do you perpetuate the corruption because everyone else is at it, or do you decline and lose a huge back hander. Quite a temptation. When I worked in Qatar I was shocked to see how the Arabs did business by preferring 'gifts' on each other to win contracts. I saw it as bribery and said so, I felt rather naive when I was told that that was the traditional way they did business. Supposed to show respect and sincerity, but we all know it goes on over here, particularly amongst Lobbyist and politicians, GPs and drug companies; holidays in the sun for you and the missus, membership to expensive golf clubs etc, I dont think its much different, its endemic.
Ambition am greed is endemic for sure. The business world , the material world is constantly open to it as it runs on ambition and greed.
If the question is should you risk a more than good enough material package for a dodgy deal then the answer is no but it's hardly a moral dilemma.
Football has been corrupt since they started wanting to win. It's no modern phenomena. The stakes are just bigger and more are at it.
Jobs for the boys and profiteering are one thing but shady meetings another. I'm afraid he isn't fit to be trusted. Not that I care but that's the bottom line.
There has to be some rules and accountability. We are steeped in scandal and filth everyday but it's not how the majority choose to live their life.
It's true to some extent what Glenn says. The worst thing about this is he has let down the "common" feeling to some extent. The blazers cam be put back on now with smugness for another few decades
-- Edited by ian on Wednesday 28th of September 2016 04:45:45 PM
