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Topic: Stubbs' threat to players after derby demolition

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Collective responsibility? - sorry the buck stops at the manager who signed said players. The manager is paid to get the best out of what's at his disposal at any profession never mind football. We were NOT the better team up until they scored, yes we had 1 or 2 opportunities in the 1st half, but ultimately the warning signs were there for all to see, yet didn't seem to be addressed in the changing room.

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I said it at the very beginning; what could he bring to a struggling championship team?

I do see some potential and it pops up every now and then and one thinks ,mmmmmmm, interesting , we look like a good team in the making. But these sentiments are crushed by some very poor tactics and a team that is unbalanced. Granted things can improve but stubbs is currently showing what he showed at hibs -underperformance.

If he is angry and thinking about getting rid of some after today then I'm afraid he will have to bring in another 11.

I don't think he knows the quality of the league and I don't think he realises how aggressive (like izzy) the league is. 

 

He wants to play football but compared to Barnsley and Brentford for example we don't have the players.  This is pretty bad because we don't have the players to play hard either. 

 

It is criminal that we haven't got a striker on the pitch as such and to wait as long as he did to bring yates on was mind boggling 

 

The tactics second half just seemed to reflect the persona of stubbs; ponderous,  unreactive,  and aimles's and sat on his arse for most of the second half. His personality is not going to change so let's hope respect and his man management is one of those slow  burning types because you wouldn't want him in charge of your bonfire celebrations.  






-- Edited by ian on Saturday 27th of August 2016 07:07:37 PM

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Worrying thing is that the transfer window closes on Wednesday and unless something drastic happens then this will be it until January and by that time we will already be down.

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I'm. Going to keep banging on about it. Why did we let Derbyshire go?

Why did we let big lad go (me escapes my frazzled defeated brain ).

In my opinion they were huge reasons for our upsurge along with a manager who knew how to stretch teams ams nullify the opposition instead of the naive debacle of today.

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It was rumoured that Warnock was going to be brought in above Stubbs in a supervisory capacity. It's not too late.....

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I don't think that would work, or that Warnock would do it. He worked his miracle last season and we had run out of luck by the end - fortunately we were safe. It goes back to the declaration of obtain

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It's a matter of opinion, but I don't think Derbyshire was much cop. After a bad performance players who weren't involved always look like the best ones. I've heard people shouting for Mattock back after today but he has been awful before today. I think today was about application. I think we have some good players but they want to stroll around and keep comfortable possession instead of being brave enough to up the tempo and take a risk. Taylor was the only player who I think could say he really put a shift in but sadly there was no end product from him.

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Ing a championship manager and getting in a guy who's had 3 jobs - none on the champ and recently working is Scotland where he failed to win promotion but won a cup.

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Stubbs really ought to apologise to the 3,293 of us that had to sit through that debacle this afternoon, that was nowhere near good enough & it hurt & hurt badly!!!!

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I also think DW is overrated and overhyped. Any decent CB works him out quickly and I can't think of any definite attempts on goal by him today. We actually don't have a striker of note and that's one of the biggest issues

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I agree Brad, losing is one thing but outright surrender in a Derby game is absolutely terrible

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Sounded grim :(

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