You and me both Kid. I thought it was a straight forward accepted fact. A quick search of the Net does however confirm that attempts by Ali apologists to airbrush history have cast doubt in the minds of some. Sorry if that came across as in any way biased.
Yes, he was supported a few paces by an over eager dundee after the bell.
The radio and TV footage is quite clear as is the journalism. Interesting how facts get distorted. How would have thought when bias is at play...Ive read the bible through several times and I still can't spot a mistake.
-- Edited by ian on Saturday 7th of November 2015 09:20:20 AM
What is very interesting about this debate is how the relatively short passage of time has thrown up amazingly different stories, all with some supporting evidence.
If such a simple event 50 ish yrs ago can be so distorted , we really can't rely on very much at all regarding evidence.
What is very interesting about this debate is how the relatively short passage of time has thrown up amazingly different stories, all with some supporting evidence.
If such a simple event 50 ish yrs ago can be so distorted , we really can't rely on very much at all regarding evidence.
Quite profound really.
I call for a dismissal.
You are dead right there, Ian. You simply cannot trust eye-witness testimony. As for religious texts written long after the event by "interested parties", translated, copied and re-copied, contradictory and nonsensical in many important particulars and chosen by Church leaders hundreds of years later from a whole mass of other texts as forming a corpus for people to live by and fight over - a complete joke.
I have to give you fair warning RK that I am not contributing to any thread about how ridiculous the notion of God is. I have already had a pop at Ali and Steve Evans, who have God-like status for a number of folk, and that is as near as I am getting to the Big Subject.
I have to give you fair warning RK that I am not contributing to any thread about how ridiculous the notion of God is. I have already had a pop at Ali and Steve Evans, who have God-like status for a number of folk, and that is as near as I am getting to the Big Subject.
Very wise. I too will leave this subject well alone.
Interesting big issue views from that well known theologian Tyson Fury a couple of days ago. There are he says three things needed 'before the devil can come home' - ****sexuality to be legal, abortion to be legal and paedophilia to be legal. OK Tyson. Whatever you say pal.
It takes me back to my opening post. Boxers do seem to be disproportionately inclined to give their opinions on a range of cultural, political and sociological issues. Why is that? What gives Tyson Fury the urge to voice his opinions on sexual tendencies and their relationship with spirituality?
