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Fall of Fortress Europe?

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Millmoormagic wrote:
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It's been predicted that at least one asteroid is due to strike Earth later this month.

I've cancelled my holiday to Puerto Rico.


 I can't see one hitting Skeggy mate, it would surely burn up as soon as it saw the jolly fisherman!!


 Very unlucky if it gets   hit again.

 

 



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Just looked this up and it's some religious nut bar (not IBS) who is claiming that God told him (course he did). So Andy if I was you Puerto Rico should still be a go.

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ian wrote:
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I'm in agreement with most on here, this is a sensible debate with many valid points. I'd like to throw one in though, regarding Germany, is Germany still suffering from the 'guilt' of Hitler et al and taking the extra thousnds in because of it, wanting atonement? I don't really know German popular opinion, surely they're gunna feel a backlash, also?


 Shame is not far from pride. 

 

The Germans seemed to be deeply motivated by both.

 

Both world wars were signs of a deep split in the psyche of the German people.  It's never far from the surface. The punishment from both wars was deep and many thought to extreme.  Many wise people wanted to save us from a backlash. Of course the reunification though difficult was healing for many

 

Perhaps they are truly trying to bury their shame but it can't work of course.

 

There is a small matter of economic growth too. Most project tons for the next 30 yrs suggest population growth will be the main factor in economic growth. The UK is forcast to become much stronger by many over this period but only if the population continues to grow.


 There wasa very interesting slant on German attitudes to migration yesterday on the radio.  Germany is suffering from massive depopulation and a rapidly aging population.  In parts of eastern Germany levels of population ahve fallen to those last seen after the dreadful impact of the Thirty Years War and whole villages are being mothballed.  The Germans seem migrants as a solution. 



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Andy Monium wrote:

It's been predicted that at least one asteroid is due to strike Earth later this month.

I've cancelled my holiday to Puerto Rico.


 I have never been to the Canary islands since seeing a programme on a huge earth slide there triggering a 600' Tsunami which would obliterate America.  My favourite, however, is for an eruption of the Yellowstone super volcano which would effectively end life on earth.



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We have theTaupo super volcano which would spoil my day completely.

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sickly child wrote:

We have theTaupo super volcano which would spoil my day completely.


 Do you live in New Zealand, mon ami?



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Our own world will end soon enough and there nothing speculative about that.

It's the same cognitive distortion we are prone too. The personal is far more real and apparently painful to contemplate than aliens, meteors, and a vengeful a God.

Earthquakes, odd end of world beliefs, tsunamis, super volcano, etc; all distractions from facts.

Yet, our own death is assured within a relatively small time. Perhaps sensing but not knowing this to be true , it becomes comforting to imagine a non personal universal catastrophic event. Thus, responsibility is assuged by a subliminal play.

Some won't walk under ladders or go on a plane or spend hours concocting all manner of fantastic beliefs about conspiracy and once in million years events but rarely consider the ticking bomb that will go off.

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Perhaps the worry of immigration we have is a similar distraction...?

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Our own world will end soon enough and there nothing speculative about that.

It's the same cognitive distortion we are prone too. The personal is far more real and apparently painful to contemplate than aliens, meteors, and a vengeful a God.

Earthquakes, odd end of world beliefs, tsunamis, super volcano, etc; all distractions from facts.

Yet, our own death is assured within a relatively small time. Perhaps sensing but not knowing this to be true , it becomes comforting to imagine a non personal universal catastrophic event. Thus, responsibility is assuged by a subliminal play.

Some won't walk under ladders or go on a plane or spend hours concocting all manner of fantastic beliefs about conspiracy and once in million years events but rarely consider the ticking bomb that will go off.


 Profound for early morning?  There is no point to life, no "why?" only "how?"  Everything is vanity in the end including the absurdity of religion.



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ridgeway kid wrote:
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We have theTaupo super volcano which would spoil my day completely.


 Do you live in New Zealand, mon ami?


Fortunately yes.  



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Millmoormagic wrote:
Andy Monium wrote:

It's been predicted that at least one asteroid is due to strike Earth later this month.

I've cancelled my holiday to Puerto Rico.


 I can't see one hitting Skeggy mate, it would surely burn up as soon as it saw the jolly fisherman!!


Thanks for that MMM.  It was a toss up between Puerto Rico or taking the old bivouac to the North Yorkshire Moors. 

So, Dalby Forest here I come!

I have some unfinished business to take care of in  that neck of the woods.



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sickly child wrote:

We have theTaupo super volcano which would spoil my day completely.


 We've got one an' all, its when Towdlass draws one off in bed and then pulls the covers over mi head



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We have theTaupo super volcano which would spoil my day completely.


 We've got one an' all, its when Towdlass draws one off in bed and then pulls the covers over mi head


 That's just put me off my lunch.



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Andy Monium wrote:
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It's been predicted that at least one asteroid is due to strike Earth later this month.

I've cancelled my holiday to Puerto Rico.


 I can't see one hitting Skeggy mate, it would surely burn up as soon as it saw the jolly fisherman!!


Thanks for that MMM.  It was a toss up between Puerto Rico or taking the old bivouac to the North Yorkshire Moors. 

So, Dalby Forest here I come!

I have some unfinished business to take care of in  that neck of the woods.


 Andy, if you're in Dalby Forset leave the cat suit at home.  I'm on the trail of the black beast of Ryedale which has now  been spotted several times in DF.  My 357 magnum does not take prisoners.



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ridgeway kid wrote:
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Millmoormagic wrote:
Andy Monium wrote:

It's been predicted that at least one asteroid is due to strike Earth later this month.

I've cancelled my holiday to Puerto Rico.


 I can't see one hitting Skeggy mate, it would surely burn up as soon as it saw the jolly fisherman!!


Thanks for that MMM.  It was a toss up between Puerto Rico or taking the old bivouac to the North Yorkshire Moors. 

So, Dalby Forest here I come!

I have some unfinished business to take care of in  that neck of the woods.


 Andy, if you're in Dalby Forset leave the cat suit at home.  I'm on the trail of the black beast of Ryedale which has now  been spotted several times in DF.  My 357 magnum does not take prisoners.


 

According to one legend the black beast has never been seen during daylight hours.

According to another legend it's even more difficult to see the black beast in total darkness.

You'll also have to be extra careful holding a weapon as powerful as that, ridgeway.

Shooting off in the woods might attract unnecessary attention.

 



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Andy Monium wrote:
ridgeway kid wrote:
Andy Monium wrote:
Millmoormagic wrote:
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It's been predicted that at least one asteroid is due to strike Earth later this month.

I've cancelled my holiday to Puerto Rico.


 I can't see one hitting Skeggy mate, it would surely burn up as soon as it saw the jolly fisherman!!


Thanks for that MMM.  It was a toss up between Puerto Rico or taking the old bivouac to the North Yorkshire Moors. 

So, Dalby Forest here I come!

I have some unfinished business to take care of in  that neck of the woods.


 Andy, if you're in Dalby Forset leave the cat suit at home.  I'm on the trail of the black beast of Ryedale which has now  been spotted several times in DF.  My 357 magnum does not take prisoners.


 

According to one legend the black beast has never been seen during daylight hours.

According to another legend it's even more difficult to see the black beast in total darkness.

You'll also have to be extra careful holding a weapon as powerful as that, ridgeway.

Shooting off in the woods might attract unnecessary attention.

 


 Andy, I see from this and your "Brazilian" extravaganza that you are a true master of the double entendre.wink



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On a more serious note my prognostications are proving not wholly unsound.  The barbed wire and watch towers are going up all over Europe.



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Once the migrants reach the shores of Northern Europe it will be quite easy to purchase the odd rubber dinghy or two to enable the short crossing over to the south coast of England.

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Further to my last post, I would add that the areas around the Home Counties should be used to re-settle some of the weary travellers. From there they could either be transported to the vast acres of Glastonbury or Great Windsor Park.
Some of the migrants will no doubt head for London.

I'm sure that the current Government will welcome them with open arms.


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Andy Monium wrote:

Further to my last post, I would add that the areas around the Home Counties should be used to re-settle some of the weary travellers. From there they could either be transported to the vast acres of Glastonbury or Great Windsor Park.
Some of the migrants will no doubt head for London.

I'm sure that the current Government will welcome them with open arms.


 The Archbishop of Canterbury is offering to put a family up.  No doubt Walter, John and Kerravon on MM will follow suit.  Problem solved.



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