Reading a MM thread on "What we learned today" reinforced my view that fans are often incapable of rational analysis of their team's performance. Some decided that it wasn't really so bad and that actually it was good and that bizarrely "we can expect to win matches at this level." Wow!
What we actually learned was:-
1. The bookies know what they are on about. As Evans tinkered throughout the close season they were less impressed than the fans as they shortened odds on relegation from 9/4 to 7/4.
2. As I have argued for 2 seasons Evans is out of his depth in the Championship.
3. From 50 years of watching football and listening to great managers the received wisdom of the necessity of continuity, of gradual and incremental change and improvement and achieving as far as possible a settled side remains true. Evans and his ego inspired revolving door policy is wrong and will send us down. TS however is wedded to the pied piper and will not wield the knife.
You could argue that Evans has improved us season after season and with 45 games to go he has every chance of doing so again.
At 1-1 yesterday, had Derbyshire / White scored then it could have been a different result. Instead Roos drops a howler and it knocked the stuffing out of us.
You could argue that Evans has improved us season after season and with 45 games to go he has every chance of doing so again.
At 1-1 yesterday, had Derbyshire / White scored then it could have been a different result. Instead Roos drops a howler and it knocked the stuffing out of us.
You could argue that but I disagree that we have improved season after season. I am not basing my observations on one game. I argued in our last season in L1 that "...even if we go up I don't believe that Evans is the right manager to take us forward in the Championship." Why do the fans readily accept players who are excellent in one league may not prosper at a higher level but never apply this to managers?
You can disagree but you are wrong. A league 1 promotion side is better than a league 2 promotion side. A championship survival team is better than a league 1 promotion side. Facts are facts.
You can disagree but you are wrong. A league 1 promotion side is better than a league 2 promotion side. A championship survival team is better than a league 1 promotion side. Facts are facts.
That's not a fact, it's not even close to being a fact. To suggest that a side that survives in the Championship is inevitably better than a side that gets promoted to the Championship seems to me a very odd assertion. I can think of a dozen sides that got promoted, lost players, struggled as a result (sometimes hanging on for a season or two) and went back down.
You could argue that Evans has improved us season after season and with 45 games to go he has every chance of doing so again.
At 1-1 yesterday, had Derbyshire / White scored then it could have been a different result. Instead Roos drops a howler and it knocked the stuffing out of us.
You could argue that but I disagree that we have improved season after season. I am not basing my observations on one game. I argued in our last season in L1 that "...even if we go up I don't believe that Evans is the right manager to take us forward in the Championship." Why do the fans readily accept players who are excellent in one league may not prosper at a higher level but never apply this to managers?
You state that Evans isn't the right manager to take us forwards in the Championship but I fail to see any evidence of this. We would have loved to sign the likes of Tavernier, LeFondre, Dicko, Hunt, Martinez but we simply cannot afford them.
Perhaps what you are really saying is that Tony Stewart isn't the man to take us any further forward??
You cannot put any blame on Evans when he has achieved everything expected of him. If his target this year is mid-table then lets judge him after say 15 games instead of after 1.
But I'm confused as to how a team could capitulate in such dramatic fashion .... after watching a competent performance against Leicester and the same defence as yesterday keeping out some of the best attackers the Bundesliga has to offer, what the hell happened? I get Ridgeway's point about too much change etc. but the players looked ready, the team looked stronger than this time last season, they all looked confident and they looked like they can hold their own in this league.
I'm hoping this is a blip, a freak result and the next game against (a very ordinary looking) Forest will be a different affair altogether. Far too early for panic yet, we've been stuffed before on several occasions and came back stronger so here's hoping Evans takes the lessons and gets them going for next Saturday.
You can disagree but you are wrong. A league 1 promotion side is better than a league 2 promotion side. A championship survival team is better than a league 1 promotion side. Facts are facts.
If thats the case, how come we lost 1- 4 yesterday
I never saw that one, I was on my way back to the train station in complete disgust that having brought in what look like several good players we resorted from the fist whistle to (I presume) the last the same footbal we were3 playing in league 2 with one exception, you cant bomb Derbyshire with those balls all day and expect something. Last season it took Evans half the season to figure the long ball is not the way to go in this division, lets hope he gets it a little sooner this one and uses some of the class he has signed to play football !!
I never saw TS leave, I was on my way back to the train station in complete disgust that having brought in what look like several good players we resorted from the fist whistle to (I presume) the last the same footbal we were3 playing in league 2 with one exception, you cant bomb Derbyshire with those balls all day and expect something. Last season it took Evans half the season to figure the long ball is not the way to go in this division, lets hope he gets it a little sooner this one and uses some of the class he has signed to play football !!
