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Not what you want to read on a lazy Sunday, Watford fan in Critical condition after attack cry

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31789223



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Unbelievable in this day and age, hope he gets better, this is getting more and more prevalent, the spectre of hooliganism is once again raising it's ugly head. crycry



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It's just a small sign but I notice more and more fans standing up at matches. A sign perhaps of an increase in arrogance and thoughtlessness.

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Yes I hope he pulls through, you have to feel for his family and friends. 

The Thugs who did this were in bigger numbers and probably wouldn't say Boo to a Goose if they were on their own.  I hope the cctv helps to trace the "people" responsible and put them away for a long time. 



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ian wrote:

It's just a small sign but I notice more and more fans standing up at matches. A sign perhaps of an increase in arrogance and thoughtlessness.


 I don't think you can make that connection though Ian, i will always prefer to stand, even though i'm an old git at 48, ha, if i am not blocking anyone i'll stand, if allowed. It's different prospect if people just stand where they want with no thought for others, of course.



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Just seen the Villa pitch invasions, along with our smoke flare gang, Millwall fans etc - is the underclass rearing its head back into football?



-- Edited by Exetermiller on Sunday 8th of March 2015 06:45:23 PM

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Just seen the Villa pitch invasions, along with our smoke flare gang, Millwall fans etc - is the underclass rearing its head back into football?



-- Edited by Exetermiller on Sunday 8th of March 2015 06:45:23 PM


 These people need turning in to the Police, smoke bomb boy asap!



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Just seen the Villa pitch invasions, along with our smoke flare gang, Millwall fans etc - is the underclass rearing its head back into football?



-- Edited by Exetermiller on Sunday 8th of March 2015 06:45:23 PM


 I don't think you can pin any kind of social class to these people though, they're more likely to be in well paid jobs than not, believe me.



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It is a far fetched link MM but all grounds in the top divisions are seated only yet if you watch you will see increasing numbers standing.



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Exetermiller wrote:

Just seen the Villa pitch invasions, along with our smoke flare gang, Millwall fans etc - is the underclass rearing its head back into football?



-- Edited by Exetermiller on Sunday 8th of March 2015 06:45:23 PM


 Not sure it's class but probably got something to do with self awareness of which no class has a monopoly - ask prince Philip if you don't believe me.

 

On a serious note the fan base is influenced by background and by the environment the team plays in. Some serious whipping up of emotions were contributed to the villa game:

Local derby

Both managers (both very vocal and demonstrative)

Manager in general;  in recent months we have had pardew,  Allardyce,  wenger,  Bruce,  pearce,  poyet...All being aggressive and violent.

Wembley 

Professional players behaviour week after week (most recent spitting)

 

The whole game does not set sufficient standards and for that matter neither do our politicians or police force.

 

 



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Some of the comments on the wolves boards beggar belief, I do feel it is coming more common and from every class

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Good to see a wolves fan has started a donation Web page that has raised 11k already.

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Good to see a wolves fan has started a donation Web page that has raised 11k already.


 The good side of Football Fans 



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