So what are you saying Exeter, that we should replace one party of vested interest with another of the same ilk. What we need are councillors who are truly independent, men and women who have the interests of the people of Rotherham at heart, not just another bunch of party political and self interested chancers. But I suppose it costs nothing to dream that one day politicians will clean up their act and truly represent those that elect them.

Sarah Champion scoring political points accusing Nigel Farage of political opportunism - says it all really.

 

No your right Exeter, it sends the wrong message if we vote them back in. But what worries me is what kind of message does it send if we replace them with UKIP. It does nothing to repair the damage done to this town and its reputation by electing a party that would promote even more division. And before the UKIP supporters jump on me, it's just my opinion. I would still like to see some truly Indipendent Councillors elected with no vested interest other than restoring Rotherhams damaged reputation. This is still a good town with honest hard working people, they deserve much better from the people who strive to represent them.

Exetermiller wrote:

---

than at the open meeting after the exploitation came out?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31163189

Surely they are the only main alternative in Rotherham? - certainly not the blues, yellows or greens.  And I tell you what if Labour get in again on May 7th, do you know what? - nobody will have any respect for our town's people.  Voting for the red of labour should be seen as a vote of confidence & that is so very very very wrong

---

I think to protest at the child abuse scandal is difficult due to the mixed emotions most would feel. Many feel they have no power and are still afraid.

Those not directly affected are effectively disenfranchised too by the emotion and lack of 'someone whom matters' to get justice from.

Everyone is abdicating responsibility and there are 'no perpetrators to be found'.

 

 

While I do no know what the answer is I am sure it is not UKIP. After looking them up last year they are not overtly racist though I have no doubts they attract them, they just seem to be a bunch of Thatcherite neo liberal crackpots. Whatever happens to Labour in Rotherham is a bed of their own making, as far as alternatives? Maybe there are real ones.

 

Has any one of them mentioned the criminals in all of this long running saga?

Remember, the criminals are still out there. The young people who suffered at the hands of the criminals will never feel safe until those abusers and groomers are pursued and brought to justice.

What's the new Police and Crime Commissioner going to do to sort out the criminals?

a) something about the alleged criminal activities?

b) nothing about the alleged criminal activities?

c) give Rotherham time for its communities to pull together?

 

I think he is going with 'c'. This way he does not upset minority groups and continues to be in denial.

 

 

 

 

MadN3il wrote:

---

You say Sarah Champion is scoring political points.What about that Dip stick stuck inside UKIP office.How he as used this protest to UKIP advantage.Did you see those protester holding placards.they were old people.I seen women with kids babys in there arms.there were more police there.I did not see.protesters foaming at the mouth.shouting loud.swearing..fighting police.pushing.It was no where like that.He has used this abuse and rape of these young girls.to UKIPS advantage.it disgusting.And sara champion is doing a lot to help these girls.go out and ask people close to some of these girl,what champion is doing.and than listen or read what ukips candidate is saying.nothing about politics.just attacks champion.nothing that help us Rotherham residents.just listern.there is nothing that helps us in Rotherham by UKIP.

---

Quite clear where your loyalties lie MadN3il.  Frankly, I couldn't give a flying fig for either of them.  I'm hoping a local independent who everyone can get behind will appear and sweep aside the political classes with their self serving agendas.

 

By the way anyone notice the prepared banners this rent-a-mob were carrying "No to Bigatry" one proclaimed.  Oh dear, you would expect that even the SWP could invest in a dictionary.

 

 

-- Edited by S8Miller on Friday 6th of February 2015 10:10:51 PM

MadN3il wrote:

---

You say Sarah Champion is scoring political points.What about that Dip stick stuck inside UKIP office.How he as used this protest to UKIP advantage.Did you see those protester holding placards.they were old people.I seen women with kids babys in there arms.there were more police there.I did not see.protesters foaming at the mouth.shouting loud.swearing..fighting police.pushing.It was no where like that.He has used this abuse and rape of these young girls.to UKIPS advantage.it disgusting.And sara champion is doing a lot to help these girls.go out and ask people close to some of these girl,what champion is doing.and than listen or read what ukips candidate is saying.nothing about politics.just attacks champion.nothing that help us Rotherham residents.just listern.there is nothing that helps us in Rotherham by UKIP.

---

 For the record personally my comment and (email and tweet) to sarah champion is purely based on her insensitivity to the psychological state of the abused in Rotherham. The tweet only undermines the real cause right minded people want to support.  These victims want justice and support not petty point scoring.

 

I am not political on this at all but every insensitivity reveals a lack of true sentiments.  

Politically the country is confused as can be seen from the last election.  Many want someone or some party to really step up and lead by example. UKIP, labour, tories and now the poor old libs have all let the working class and the poor in riches and spirit down.

 

I'm not angry as such at anyone and I don't support anyone in this.  Utter sadness and perplexity is closer to how I feel. 

 

-- Edited by ian on Friday 6th of February 2015 11:09:40 PM

Yep. I agree Kevin.

My Grandad , who ,I take some political and moral inspiration from ( he was a welsh miner ),would I suspect ,not be voting labour at present. He was never left of the party and he wouldn't condone any of this even with firm lived experience of the labour movement in his life and it's power then to create good health and well being for the working class.

If there was a sensible man or women out there we would all be happy.

Step forward...