If we were in the same position as Peterborough we would not be happy puppies. If and when this vote happens clubs are going to vote for their own self-interest money or the lack of it will be the deciding factor for div 1.
-- Edited by TH MILLER on Saturday 30th of May 2020 08:11:57 AM
It's shocking mate, and this is not the first bitter article posted by this journalist, I had an exchange with him on Twitter earlier this month...
I can understand all the teams below 2nd, down to 10th, feeling they had a chance of promotion that MIGHT be taken away, but the way this guy targets other clubs in way beyond reasonable.
Not many fans of other clubs are going to welcome Peterborough in future seasons after their antics in the last two months, and I truly hope that Karma applies to them and they NEVER get promoted again...
If we were in the same position as Peterborough we would not be happy puppies. If and when this vote happens clubs are going to vote for their own self-interest money or the lack of it will be the deciding factor for div 1.
-- Edited by TH MILLER on Saturday 30th of May 2020 08:11:57 AM
Totally disagree with your first sentence. If the majority decide to end the season on a PPG basis, so be it. We are in the middle of a global health crisis, normal rules go out of the window and everyone should accept the democratic resolution in good faith. I can't imagine Paul Davis writing such a bitter piece in the Advertiser if the roles were reversed.
As for clubs voting with their own self interest at heart - of course they will! The key concern for the majority of clubs is avoiding financial ruin and probable closure. Why wouldn't clubs vote to avoid that devastating outcome! Absolute no brainer!
Just been reading taken from Peterborough telegraph. Can't argue with what they are saying. Doubts Roth U would have finished the league in 2nd. Wycombe would even have got in the play-offs. Also relegating Tranmere who were in a relegation fight but all to play for. Clubs knowing how play-offs line up with general ppg being how league 1 will be decided. If they had gone with the weighted ppg would have seen to have been fairer. Another thing if they are going to have play-offs for the last promotion place should have had play-offs for relegation. Bottom 2 relegated next 4 up from them in league 1 in play-offs to decide the final relegation place in reverse from other end of the table. Two semi-finals losers from them play in the final. Loser from that is relegated.
Just seen a report about the vote if it ever happens div 1 could be playing the season out it says everything is up in the air a vote for that option is gathering strength. Remember that it is the EFL preferred option be great 1st match when we play Southend only 8 players plus anyone they can drag off the street. I don't want this season to be played out null and void or any other crackpot idea they come up with I wish I was a lawyer dip your bread.
Just been reading taken from Peterborough telegraph. Can't argue with what they are saying. Doubts Roth U would have finished the league in 2nd. Wycombe would even have got in the play-offs. Also relegating Tranmere who were in a relegation fight but all to play for. Clubs knowing how play-offs line up with general ppg being how league 1 will be decided. If they had gone with the weighted ppg would have seen to have been fairer. Another thing if they are going to have play-offs for the last promotion place should have had play-offs for relegation. Bottom 2 relegated next 4 up from them in league 1 in play-offs to decide the final relegation place in reverse from other end of the table. Two semi-finals losers from them play in the final. Loser from that is relegated.
It's not about my dads bigger than your dad it's about fairness. I can't have Wycombe in 3rd place when they have played two more home games than away games when their away ppg are bout half of their home ppg. How do send Tranmere down when they a game in hand on 4th from the bottom 3pts behind. Only way is to complete the season which all teams can't or call it null & void. I want Roth U to go up I've said so we won't have to put up with the same mishmash of a season we've had this season & up the quality of the side enough to compete in the championship.
I've had a rethink: relegation. Championship are going to complete their season so as normal 3 down. Then top 2 promoted from league 1, Coventry & Rotherham Utd finish top 2 either way it's decided by ppg. Final promotion place sides that could be involved in the play-offs have a vote if its general ppg or weighted that will decide who contest them. Two sides at bottom of league 1 are as good as down so just two are relegated from league 1. 3 up from league 2. At bottom of league 2 at least 2 out 3 are all but out of the EFL so would be relegated on merit. However many are relegated out of league 2 needs one extra to replace them out of the National league ie if 2 are relegated from league 2 3 needed to replace them to even the EFL up.
-- Edited by gwru on Sunday 31st of May 2020 10:20:31 AM
The whole thing is farcical and the season should have been ended like L2 - we've played 80% of the games and we are second end of. If Peterborough were top and Sunderland second right now then it would have been over 4 weeks ago. Doesn't matter how you slice and dice it - football is not completely predictable (thank God) so any what it's are pure hypothesy and therefore the actual results over 4/5ths of the season are the best indicator for promotion & relegation. Any suggestions that don't promote us and Coventry are non starters.
The journalist who wrote that article likes to mention our form. What form is that though? Its been three months since a ball was kicked, any momentum/form good or bad has gone out the window.
I am slowly coming round to the idea of playing the season out it is the only fair way to sort relegation promotion but let's see the EFL put the money up to pay for it. Whatever happened to this 50 million they were going to put in not heard a peep about that put the magnificent 8 on the spot give them what they want none of the other clubs should be out of pocket. If that is a none starter then we can move on to the other option whatever that is. What a joke the pantomime season has started seven months early.
Whatever the final decision, some people will still grumble about it. However, one thing is for sure. There'll be no real football played in any stadium, in front of a crowd of supporters until the pandemic is no more. Many supporters won't be rushing to help fill football grounds even when the medics/scientists give the all clear to do so. The virus has scarred many minds and bodies for years to come.
You can't hide behind the curtains forever in a few months things hopefully will improve there are risks in all walks of life. I will renew my season ticket I reckon the grounds will be safe enough but attitudes to having a drink and how you travel will have to change away support might take a long while to return. I would not be surprised if they allow grounds to open for fans and let 25% in better than nothing, to begin with.
