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GlennMiller
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Well, he lasted a month less at St Mirren than he did with us. His win ratio was the same though - one win in his entire tenure! I do feel sorry for him but like anyone else seeking employment, sometimes you have to change tack to find something that you're suited to.

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Hopefully now, comments about AS can be confined to the St Mirren forum and not on here anymore winkwink



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Bornamiller whoever he is will be devastated.

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Oh dear oh dear i wonder if we will now get less alan stubbs comparison from bornamiller Lets hope so

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May be a good coach but.poor manager

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He got the possession stats where Bornamiller likes them - about 35% - but he wasn't able to get his mix of signings and talented loanees from the top clubs (Southampton and Man Utd no less) to prevent the opposition getting around 30 efforts on goal in a game and murdering St Mirren where it matters - in the killing zone. Given a couple more years and a relegation or two, he could have done wonders for them. If only the fools had the foresight to see that!

In all seriousness, he seems like a decent man and he has lost his job which is a shame. Also in all seriousness, sacking a manager after only a few games is ridiculous although (sadly) increasingly common. Whether someone else can be persuaded to give him a chance we shall have to wait and see.

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He'll be working for the FA before long, think it's probably time he sought other avenues - need to be cut from a different cloth to manage at the levels he has attempted.

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He got the possession stats where Bornamiller likes them - about 35% - but he wasn't able to get his mix of signings and talented loanees from the top clubs (Southampton and Man Utd no less) to prevent the opposition getting around 30 efforts on goal in a game and murdering St Mirren where it matters - in the killing zone. Given a couple more years and a relegation or two, he could have done wonders for them. If only the fools had the foresight to see that!

In all seriousness, he seems like a decent man and he has lost his job which is a shame. Also in all seriousness, sacking a manager after only a few games is ridiculous although (sadly) increasingly common. Whether someone else can be persuaded to give him a chance we shall have to wait and see.

 As can be seen from the attached list, length of tenure for any manager these days is very short. says something when Eddie Howe is now the longest serving manager in the premiership, and only 2 other managers in the football league have had (slightly) longer tenures.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45403373



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Taking a slightly different view on this… I really think the transfer window system is damaging Football.

I’m ok with it applying to the Premiership, as they had massive squads and large funding pots, so have a larger squad to work with. If they get some bad eggs , it doesn’t ruin the team so much.

For all the rest, it puts massive pressure on clubs, and in turn managers, to attract and land players in a short transfer window.

Agents play brinkmanship which means the end of the transfer window is a mess, and many teams don’t finish their business before the window closes.

This all means managers have no opportunity to tweak their team until January – as we know too well ourselves, that can be too late to save your season.

So if a club starts the season badly, there is nowhere to go, so an option is to try and get a different result with the same players – hence the managers take the hit.

I really can’t see anything positive at all from the transfer window system.



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I agree with you 100% Davidedin! As if RUFC haven't got enough disadvantages in terms of budget, attendances, Historic England, geographic appeal etc, etc, we could really do without the unnecessary burdens placed upon us by the transfer window system and the agents who are the pariahs of English football and beyond. Surely there has to be a better system!

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I agree with that too.

If we have to have a transfer window at all, I think they should apply to manager too. Although I haven't really thought it through in terms of legalities and logistics, having a narrow window during which managers can move might be a way of getting managers at least more than a few games to show what they can do. The current manager-go-round is (as Unifier points out) getting faster and faster, and the result is bad for football because they get payoffs every time which is money leaking out of the game. It is getting ridiculous.

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Who really cares about the game really? Who are the custodians of the game? The FA ? FIFA? Or the fans?

I agree with everything that has been pointed out, but those currently running the show are making too much to be persuaded to change the way things are done.Its a bit like politicians in Westminster and the voting system its all about whats in it for them.

On a club level the very fact that teams call themselves 'Football Clubs', which intimates an association is owned and run by the fans, is something of a misnomer these days since the fans own nothing of 'the club' nor do they have any say but are merely loyal cash cows.

Times and things change but football has become just the same as everything else in Society where institutions are now run by millionaires for the benefit of millionaires. Don't expect any changes for the benefit of the game any time soon.

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