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I'm pleased for.

Remember few years ago at Swansea telling my lad, don't understand why Woody doesn't get more game time & he has shown resilience and resolve to stick around.  Realise it's prob his last time he'll experience something like this, but great to see him embracing it at the final whistle with the crowd - looked like he really took to the moment and enjoyed himself, finally leaving the shoulders to embrace his family by the tunnel.

Will Vaulks, this lad is an amazing role model for young and up coming footballers and he's so young.  Not only for what he had to sacrifice to get to where he is, but he knows his priveledged position and puts in lots of time to the Children's Hospice bringing smiles to kids lives and helping around.



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too right

lets hope wood moves to the coaching staff as defensive player coach

and vaulk doesnt get poached

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Is that Wood who only plays because he is Warneys mate (according to some)?

He has his limitations and has only played so often this season because of the frailties of Ajayi and Ihiekwe, but he was man of the match by a country mile yesterday.

Some footballers associate themselves with Foundations and charitable work because it plays out well for publicity. Speak to the people at Bluebell Wood (which I am close to geographically and personally) and they will tell you that Will Vaulks spends hours down there week on week doing the sort of hands on work that goes above and beyond publicity. Setting aside his merits as a player on a personal level he is a credit to himself and the club.



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Wood was good last night!

But he was atrocious and a major reason we lost so badly in the championship played consistently by best mate PW.

Last night he was pumped up because it would be his last shot at Wembley.....and it was by far his best performance this year. He hasn't pulled up any trees this year either but considering the demise of such as Dom Ball he has no rivals for his position really so he's been lucky - another manager would have / should have covered for his SLOW and reduced attributes - he's been treated very well by PW....

And - we say he was ok last night HOW MANY CHANCES DID SCUNNY HAVE !

It was the story of the season last night - WE were ok but thank the footballing God's THEY WERE RUBBISH!

On chances spurned by Scunny and Kodak saves....we should have lost - we were lucky again poor poor league - and many of those chances went straight through the centre of defence. No one stopped the shots that got off but they were so crap they missed.



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Just arrived back home after a fantastic night! Congratulations to Paul Warne, his staff, the players and everyone at NYS who contributed to another magnificent achievement.

S****horpe are a very decent side and if they could finish they might have been more successful. However, they couldn't and we could and as a result, we'll be at Wembley and they won't. I don't think Shrewsbury will be as tough a game as last night.

Regardless of the quality of the football last night, the objective was achieved and that has to be appreciated and celebrated. Hence, my surprise at the first post I read this morning (above) which for some inexplicable reason aims to demean the achievement of the team and individuals within it. Sorry, did I miss something, did we lose last night? Get a grip man!

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Check my posts back on MM to day one Vaulks coming to this club, rated him straight away as a player but the unselfish hours he's putting in at Bluebell Wood makes admiration for his work there can't be any higher. Wood is an old warhorse going to well for the last time but he knows his limitations, reads game well makes up for his loss of pace that's if he had much pace to start with.

From last night can't see us changing formation for Wembley. Ajayi coming on almost completed the jigsaw. Just right winger place up for grabs. Williams didn't keep the shirt last night. If Emmanuel is playing like he his could do worse than go with Taylor who if you set him up will put a decent ball in + takes a accurate inswinging corner from the left. Taylor needs to stop doing everything at top speed, wait for his moment. Palmer by the way though things didn't go all his way kept at it. I think he's short of confidence, hope that's repairable.



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Bornamiller wrote:

Wood was good last night!

But he was atrocious and a major reason we lost so badly in the championship played consistently by best mate PW.

Last night he was pumped up because it would be his last shot at Wembley.....and it was by far his best performance this year. He hasn't pulled up any trees this year either but considering the demise of such as Dom Ball he has no rivals for his position really so he's been lucky - another manager would have / should have covered for his SLOW and reduced attributes - he's been treated very well by PW....

And - we say he was ok last night HOW MANY CHANCES DID SCUNNY HAVE !

It was the story of the season last night - WE were ok but thank the footballing God's THEY WERE RUBBISH!

On chances spurned by Scunny and Kodak saves....we should have lost - we were lucky again poor poor league - and many of those chances went straight through the centre of defence. No one stopped the shots that got off but they were so crap they missed.



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-- Edited by Bornamiller on Thursday 17th of May 2018 09:13:01 AM

 Sorry pal but you are talking out of your arris.

They missed chances but some good last ditch defending and goalkeeping had something to do with that.  Remember also the save from Ihiekwe and Towell and the Mattock header in the first half, the save from Taylor towards the end, and a couple of opportunities spurned by Newell.  On another day we could have had four or five ourselves.

We are what we are.  A team that was badly damaged last season in a division that ultimately swallowed us up and spat us out.  A league that is always going to represent a massive challenge to us.  But this season a team that has restored some pride in the club.  Yes we have our shortcomings, but we have an honest bunch who give 100% and win far more than they lose.  It has taken much bigger clubs than us (some of them not a million miles away from Rotherham) a long time to get out of League 1 and we now have a 50/50 chance of doing it at the first attempt thanks largely to a young manager who you have sniped at at every opportunity.  Ask Charlton, Plymouth and MK Dons if they would like to swap places with us.

Most sane people are over the moon with what we are doing, but you can't wait to try and drag us down and show us all how clever you are.

Ikiekwe lost it a bit under pressure which was a shame for him.  Your response is to call him 'Ithickwee' and compare him to cistitus.  Not funny and not clever.  Continuing the urinary theme, do me a favour and **** off back to Mad if they will have you.

 



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smiler wrote:
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Wood was good last night!

But he was atrocious and a major reason we lost so badly in the championship played consistently by best mate PW.

Last night he was pumped up because it would be his last shot at Wembley.....and it was by far his best performance this year. He hasn't pulled up any trees this year either but considering the demise of such as Dom Ball he has no rivals for his position really so he's been lucky - another manager would have / should have covered for his SLOW and reduced attributes - he's been treated very well by PW....

And - we say he was ok last night HOW MANY CHANCES DID SCUNNY HAVE !

It was the story of the season last night - WE were ok but thank the footballing God's THEY WERE RUBBISH!

On chances spurned by Scunny and Kodak saves....we should have lost - we were lucky again poor poor league - and many of those chances went straight through the centre of defence. No one stopped the shots that got off but they were so crap they missed.



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-- Edited by Bornamiller on Thursday 17th of May 2018 09:13:01 AM

 Sorry pal but you are talking out of your arris.

They missed chances but some good last ditch defending and goalkeeping had something to do with that.  Remember also the save from Ihiekwe and Towell and the Mattock header in the first half, the save from Taylor towards the end, and a couple of opportunities spurned by Newell.  On another day we could have had four or five ourselves.

We are what we are.  A team that was badly damaged last season in a division that ultimately swallowed us up and spat us out.  A league that is always going to represent a massive challenge to us.  But this season a team that has restored some pride in the club.  Yes we have our shortcomings, but we have an honest bunch who give 100% and win far more than they lose.  It has taken much bigger clubs than us (some of them not a million miles away from Rotherham) a long time to get out of League 1 and we now have a 50/50 chance of doing it at the first attempt thanks largely to a young manager who you have sniped at at every opportunity.  Ask Charlton, Plymouth and MK Dons if they would like to swap places with us.

Most sane people are over the moon with what we are doing, but you can't wait to try and drag us down and show us all how clever you are.

Ikiekwe lost it a bit under pressure which was a shame for him.  Your response is to call him 'Ithickwee' and compare him to cistitus.  Not funny and not clever.  Continuing the urinary theme, do me a favour and **** off back to Mad if they will have you.

 



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-- Edited by smiler on Thursday 17th of May 2018 10:34:59 AM

 smiler i totally agree with your comments

everyone has an opinion that is the point of a forum

but the constant disparaging comments about certain players by certain posters is getting tedious

in regards the chances that why we are where we are we took them which is what daws said

yes we know we will need new players no matter what league we are in to cover defense and midfield and goal

i do hope warne realises that in the championship if we do get there we will need a specialist  coach

 



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I simply don't get the euphoria bug that only see good / great....marvellous.

Having played competitive football until 46 z managed / coached....FA coaching - and don't ask - certificates went years ago....I see the "football realities".

NOT doing so ( in coaching terms ) you never progress.

God if you don't whoop whoop you're pulling the team down.

Staunch supporter - but can see the WOOD for the trees...lol

In your post you agree - KODAK actually gesticulating to defence to get their act together - he worked far too hard for our defence to be given too much credit !

His saves = defensive failures !



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is that the same for all  goalkeepers in any team 

 

we are all aware of the shortcomings of the team . but those comments can surely wait until 28th may 



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Well that's common sense is it...?

He dragged the boy off before he could do any more damage - a Freeby - diamond - don't think so and Wood is so slow and only in because we have no one better - that is the fault of management.

I want to be winners at Wembley - knowing frailty and not correcting it is madness and act now ...

The 28th is a day too late !

They say the club don't read this stuff but reading some posts I think the propaganda machine working overtime.

Last seasons planned championship demise was unashamedly shrouded in club propaganda. Talking up PW when he was pathetically out of his depth - playing open - toe to toe football against teams that were head and shoulders above us. Everyone says PW NOT to blame well he was the manager that played the wrong tactics - selected the wrong players and went on the worst run in club history ....a better manager would NOT have collapsed so badly.

Personally - all sorted for Wembley - transport - parking - tickets - all done and dusted.

We won't have a new team / players by then - so let's hope we can get the defence to protect Kodak - who we need to keep btw...come on Fulham....


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There were one or two last night that stood out which is a way of saying it wasnt our best performance.

Wood was excellent
Emmanuel proved again how much he has grown alongside Rodak.
These 3 Plus Vaulks seemed to me to be the group that kept us in the game and ultimately go on to win.

Ihiekwe had an absolute mare and although PW said he was feeling an injury I dont quite believe him. I could be wrong. It seemed to me he was off the pace, his head gone and mistake after mistake built up the evidence and I really felt he should have been subbed in the first 20 minutes. Harsh and unusual perhaps but he was way off and a liability. I guess its about culture and tradition and saving face but Im not sure that it was worth the risk of keeping him on. I wonder of others think Im being too trigger happy but its a clear feeling I had on the night and still its my reflection.


A great night and a deserved win.

Up the Millers

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The point of being in a league is that you recruit (however and whoever), so you JUST need to be better than the rest, not blow everyone away with 110 points. Considering the amount of players not fit for purpose or over inflated wages, I'd say the club have done an excellent job in recognising such and turning it around to be the 4th (hopefully 3rd), best team in the league. That is an amazing achievement in just 1 summer and winter window. Add to that PW's influence of what he has brought to the table in instilling an ethos right down to the badge on the floor at the training ground - I have nothing but praise and admiration, which is more than I can say of 12 months ago.

Yes, we have our short comings, yes we'll need to strengthen even if we don't go up, but all teams do including Wigan and Blackburn. That is football, you never are the finished article. What is the bottom line here, is the turnaround and the belief is back in the team and the fans. If this ends up in promotion it will be the greatest promotion from any Rotherham manager, not bad to have on your CV after only 18 months eh?

Will we struggle if we go up? - of course we will - the gap is too big, unless Born you have an idea of where we can instantly get 5000 more season ticket holders, extend the ground, fix G&C that will always be the case - or god forbid a foreign benefactor.

Stop analysing so much, be a fan, yes you've had a long history in football, expired badges whatever if you were truly that knowledgable you'd also understand the reasons why we have players with mistakes in them and accept them for what they are, in the context of what Rotherham United as a club are. If still not happy you could always go and watch Man City?



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"Stop analysing so much, be a fan, yes you've had a long history in football, expired badges"

That last bit was a nice touch "expired"...lol

"Stop analysing".....what the point of every football blog in world history.....to analyse !

The course I went on there were two ex pro's and - for me - it taught little that wasn't already known and the rest is aquired on grass playing the game with the best players you can.

The drills one creates are the ones born out of experience and what works against what opposition....NB: Experience....!

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Bornamiller wrote:

I simply don't get the euphoria bug that only see good / great....marvellous.

Having played competitive football until 46 z managed / coached....FA coaching - and don't ask - certificates went years ago....I see the "football realities".

NOT doing so ( in coaching terms ) you never progress.

God if you don't whoop whoop you're pulling the team down.

Staunch supporter - but can see the WOOD for the trees...lol

In your post you agree - KODAK actually gesticulating to defence to get their act together - he worked far too hard for our defence to be given too much credit !

His saves = defensive failures !

 This is not the first time you have alluded to the fact that you have played a bit and coached a bit and therefore know a bit more than other people.  Nor is it the first time you have referred to the 'planned demise' of the club, which you also suggested extended to planning not to go up this season.  How is that that theory panning out?  Do you seriously think all that we saw last night was fake and that we are planning to go to Wembley and throw the game?  Perhaps Tony will bribe one of those corrupt refs of yours to swing it towards Shrewsbury?

There was some guy in the West Stand who played hell up with Warne near the end of the Rochdale game because we were losing at home.  The first defeat in seventeen.  Was it you by any chance?  I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was.

You are not the only one on here to have played and coached at a decent level.  I know that to be true.  I dare say some on here might have played professionally.  But that doesn't really matter.  Your reasonable opinions are as welcome as anyone else's.  But the repetitive criticism because we don't play like Man City every week, constant disrespectful sniping at good people and endless conspiracy theory drivel - even coming to the fore the day after we have booked a Wembley trip - is just really, really boring and the fact that you don't see that is really irritating.

The nature of the problem is such that this post is probably a waste of time I know, because you won't take the point, but it needs saying.

 



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Probably took the badges a long time ago? because the ones I've done are all around the mechanics of coaching, how we coach and was totally eye opening. In fact I don't refer myself as a coach, that implies repetitive lines of how to dribble and other such nonsense. I am an educator to children of football, that is the world of football. And yes unless you're licensed which requires continual CPD annually, DBS, 1st Aid and Child Safeguarding in date then yes why shouldn't it be classed as expired. Coaching badges even obtained 20yrs are obsolete these days, the game has changed too much.

I see football games from all perspectives, as a player (as I still play), as a coach and as a referee, and with the millers - a fan. That learning allows me to me broad minded in each facet, whether refereeing, playing or supporting. I get players and parents giving initial reactions to my refereeing decisions, I understand why, I also do it as a player, I did it last week to a ref who supposedly a player I 'fouled' ended on the deck who was more likened to the Hulk and I'm a Hobbit. But I didn't criticise the ref at all, I reacted as a player would but no way did I question his ability of being a ref.

I just like most fans see where our issues are, but so what? I don't want to go and watch robots, I have my own views on what I'd do if I was Warney, but I'm not Warney. The differences in opinion is what makes the game, but when Warney makes his calculated decisions I can see the reason behind them, although sometimes I may not necessarily agree.

Try being positive about something you may actually like it & enjoy it more!

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Football snobbery in overdrive from Bornamiller. Reading the majority of his posts I don't think you can be classed as a decent footballer outside the Prem. Genuinely what do you expect? You support a team that will yo yo between league one and championship football, players will make mistakes and get found out at timesbut they all still have a degree of talent and bring something to the club. Look at the players we've signed with so called reputations they've looked as interested as a brick wall. Give me Richard Wood's any day of the week, they'll make mistakes but they represent what Rotherham United has been about ever since I started watching.

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Enjoy Wembley !

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At least there is a chance that C might enjoy it. You have no chance. You do realise it is the League One Playoff Final you have bought tickets for, don't you? The Chelsea v Man Utd game is this weekend.





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