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hillsborough miller
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Tim Robinson

 

has he been a ref for us before. he hasnt ref'd s****horpe before

 



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Tim Robinson was heavily criticised for his decision to send off Sheffield Wednesday's forward, Fernando Forestieri in a 0-0 draw with Hull City two years ago.
The Football League agreed about the harsh decision and banished Robinson to Crawley Town's League Two fixture against Newport County the following Tuesday night, with Notts County v Bristol Rovers to follow, in the same division the following Saturday.

In January 2017 during a Portsmouth v Luton game, Luton youngster Cameron McGeehan went into a tackle with Pompey's Michael Doyle and broke his leg. Lying hurt on the pitch, the 21 year-old must have been in a considerable amount of pain… so he punched the pitch. Referee Tim Robinson wasn't quite so sympathetic - and booked McGeehan for daring to be angry about his serious (and seriously sore) injury.

The Daily Mirror named Robinson as 'English football's harshest referee' at that time.

Robinson may be on the Football League's watch list. Allegedly.


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You would have thought that given the significance of the game they would appoint an official in whom they have confidence. The last thing anyone wants is for a daft red card to be branded or for the referee to lose control of the game. The best football team should win and go through, not the team that gets the clean end of the stick with dodgy decisions.

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Sounds like he'll follow orders though!

We're foooooked !

Unless of course he's on our side in which case Scunny are foooooked...😊

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This is a repeat of an allegation that you have made or hinted at several times before Bornamiller ie that referees are corrupt. I think they sometimes make mistakes. They are human beings doing a difficult job. And I understand that it is a big bad world where bad things happen. But I haven't seen any evidence that at football league level in this country they are corrupt. What do you know that I don't?

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A few quotes from the West Sussex Times 24th July 2016.

Tim Robinson 'from Middleton-on-Sea, has had to give the red card to his job as a PE teacher at the Weald School in Billingshurst to realise his dream of officiating at the very top level'.

'He has been a firm fixture in the latter over the past four years which has earned him a promotion to a new venture with the Professional Game Match Officials. They are the organisation that appoint all officials for the top tiers of league football and he will form part of the new Select Group 2 - 18 professional referees dedicated primarily to officiating in the Championship'.

There have also been disappointments along the way. Robinson said: “It’s not all been good. When you get a big decision wrong, the disappointment and hurt that causes is hard to deal with''.

You can say that again, Mr Robinson.



Mr Robinson's ladder appears to be very short.

To quote Bornamiller from another thread, ''The problem is reaching for the dream and the ladders too short.....a long way to fall for those that go balls out and fail....''  

 

I hope Mr Robinson doesn't 'go balls out' or balls up next Saturday. It's not befitting a football referee.



-- Edited by wotsisname on Wednesday 9th of May 2018 12:02:59 PM

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At least that would be entertaining...lol

The Aussie cricket captain might try to "tamper" with them ?

As for referee's being - let's say influenced - is due to many MANY key decisions being ignored even when the TV has shown the referee's being in a perfect position.

There are too many examples to share but we are all aware of them ( if we watch football ).

I've referee'd games and ran the line for friends who are referee's and it's a nigh on impossible job BUT.....

Penalties given / not given are too many in key games. They all can't be that bad!

There should be a ref watch channel dedicated to the betterment of refereeing in general - hosted by our Howard. But I bet that plug would be pulled without delay...lol

I agree though - with millions at stake and every chairman / consortium involved in world football being all good eggs - I can't see the "motivation" to even try to influence that odd key decision. No - no motivation at all...lol



-- Edited by Bornamiller on Wednesday 9th of May 2018 01:12:20 PM



-- Edited by Bornamiller on Wednesday 9th of May 2018 01:14:15 PM



-- Edited by Bornamiller on Wednesday 9th of May 2018 01:15:51 PM

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Bornamiller - you seem to enjoy your own jokes.

I only referred to football in this country, and I never said that everyone involved in football is a good egg. We all know that there are plenty of very bad eggs. We have seen some of them at our own club from time to time.

The answer to my question though seems to be that you have no evidence at all that referees in this country are corrupt. You have seen decisions made (or not made) that you disagree with, and rather than accept that they are human beings who might make mistakes, you prefer to leap to the conclusion that they are bent.

That is an easy allegation to make from behind a keyboard.

To insinuate that Tim Robinson (who may or may not be a good referee) is as bent as (according to you) the rest of them isn't lol funny at all. It is groundless bull****. Even Steve Evans usually has the good sense to protect himself when he attacks referees by starting off with 'I am not questioning the integrity of the man' before laying into them. You should be more careful.





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I do take exception that officials are 'corrupt'. All referees know the laws, it then comes down to 2 things. Positioning, are they in the right position to see the incident clearly? which coincides with keeping up with play. Second the decision they have to make are in the context of the game, and absolutely split second almost natural reaction. In both cases more and better training addresses this. Ref's can give themselves a second or 2 to process what's gone on and apply the laws. It then comes down to the person. How ready are they to jump on instinct?

I've done a few matches where the 2 teams have been proper tetchy, and you just think I'm not blowing for that or that, but later in the game when it calms down you have to keep to the same consistency - it's very difficult. If a ref sets the stall out to keep it flowing then changes, or vice versa that is a game management issue. You can train refs until theyre blue in the face, but changing the person or mindset is something else.

We have to remember in this country again we are light years behind where we need to be. Hence no reps in the World Cup. This all starts at grass roots and amatuer football. The funding isn't there and support is all there on paper but in my experience isn't utlilised. Raise the bar at the bottom and better refs will come through, but who pays for this as the FA clearly can't afford to. It's the same as the kids we're bringing through, our country is big enough to be constantly competing at the top level, no matter how the PL want to destroy it. But clubs at the top have to be forced to contribute more lower down, for kids and referee's.

Maybe when we leave the EU the FA can go to Parliament and say that EU law we've passed to British law, we want exceptions for football. That's the hope anyway



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The only thing we all ask of the referee's is be consistent in applying the law.

That simply does not happen !

The reason for these inconsistencies is up for discussion and the bottom line - in support of refereeing generally is the human factor.

As for enjoying my own jokes - hell yes!



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Reffed us away at hillsbrough last year when we lost 1 0 to a 94th min penalty when jaoa threw himself to the floor and richard wood was sent off for it. Also disallowed a perfectly good tom adeyemi goal for us just before half time. Apart from that hes ok!!!

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We actually won 0-1 that day!

He has that sort of performance in his locker Gawd elp us.

Message to team - don't give him decisions to make !

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Penalty number one the Charlton got away with.

Missed header but controlled on the arm. These are gamechangers

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Only saw 1st half as went playing 5 a side. Thought ref did ok, only things I saw wrong was Charlton should have had a pen after about 10 mins when their Shrews big centre half used the striker as a scaffold hands on both shoulder, it amazes me ref's haven't the gumption to give those its clearly a foul. Also assistant gave Charlton a corner when clearly the Charlton player put his foot through Shrews defender legs to tap it out, but that's nit picking.

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i kept an eye on the score but i watching u17 then i watched the 1972 series of mission impossible


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FAO Anyone who overlooked this thread. Tim Robinson reffed the game well at Scunny today. I thought he had a good game.

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Can I have a pint of what you’ve been drinking please that ref was 5 hite .

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Its all opinions, luvpud. It's great to have opinions don't you think?
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The referee was a nightmare - there are too many schoolteachers scamming a living out of football - the diving was painfull and the only decent fouls ignored.

There was nothing about that game to write home about except for the ball over the top for ticker to score from - Williams should have run the defender down the line to "turn them" again but ( bad judgement and bad touch ) he turned inside BAD MOVE - for them to attack us.

There is a 10 minute law from football God that states "play SAFE for 10 minutes after a goal" but we haven't the game to do that!

Back to OT referee was school yard level.



-- Edited by Bornamiller on Saturday 12th of May 2018 03:50:51 PM

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