Enough is enough, I am sick and tired of hearing big aspirations with no application. For 3 years we have had a competitive budget, so competitive that we have battled to survive relegation. We have been told every year for 3 years we will make a push, be top ten, be a Premier League Club. We have been told time after time how the horrible agents have defeated our attempts to sign player A,B,C .....Z
Well Im not buying any more of this bullshine
Paul Warne im sure is a true Miller BUT he is not and will not become a manager. We are, as all should honestly now know, in free fall to L1 with the worst record in history.
NOW is the time to bring in a manager, I dont know who would come here but P.W aint the man.
I do think P.W will be the manager in L1 and will lead RUFC with its meager budget all the way back to L2
I don't necceserally agree with Stewart out as I still think he has the best interests of the club at heart but he HAS to be better advised. The people who he has surrounded himself with (Douglas, Commercial Manager & Staff etc) simply have to go in order to run RUFC as a successful company & a viable football club. Unfortunately we all know that this will not happen, the people above will stay up Tony's sphincter to protect themselves, season ticket sales will half, probably more if he makes the mistake of appointing the frankly clueless Warne as next seasons manager, all the commercial revenue, away support, will half, & we'll be lucky to stay in L1, despite Tony's positive talk. Im as depressed as I've ever been in 40+ years of supporting the Millers & that includes the sh y te served up by Begara & Kerr's teams who whilst being bad, weren't getting whalloped every week! !
I don't necceserally agree with Stewart out as I still think he has the best interests of the club at heart but he HAS to be better advised. The people who he has surrounded himself with (Douglas, Commercial Manager & Staff etc) simply have to go in order to run RUFC as a successful company & a viable football club. Unfortunately we all know that this will not happen, the people above will stay up Tony's sphincter to protect themselves, season ticket sales will half, probably more if he makes the mistake of appointing the frankly clueless Warne as next seasons manager, all the commercial revenue, away support, will half, & we'll be lucky to stay in L1, despite Tony's positive talk. Im as depressed as I've ever been in 40+ years of supporting the Millers & that includes the sh y te served up by Begara & Kerr's teams who whilst being bad, weren't getting whalloped every week! !
Brad I appreciate your comment and what you have to say ties in pretty much with my thoughts posted or not. I do however stick by my origional post title as this is the only way this club will progress. T.S. is unwilling to accept investment, even from current board members, in order to have complete control of the club over progression. So id like to see T.S. accept investment and disclose the spending of RUFC and other T.S buisnesses built of it or be on your way and let us find our natural position not an over inflated load of gas preached by a man out of his depth and desperate to cover it.
A ****ed of big time Miller who's had enough of the last 3 years $h!t
Be careful what you wish for. Who do you have in mind for taking over?
People have very short memories and very unrealistic expectations.
The current situation is desperately disappointing and frustrating, but I don't imagine there are many people looking to take us over. We aren't exactly a sleeping giant are we?
I expect our owners who ever they may be to be realistic. if they have a budget for Lg1 do not preach PL in 5 years. This shower have for the last 3 seasons leached on us the common supporter to buy a saeson ticket to supportt heir over inflated aspirations and i for one have had enough !!
Then Gaz my friend I suggest you take a sabbatical. I am not trying to be smart but it is not worth spending money on something that makes you so deeply unhappy.
Be careful what you wish for. Who do you have in mind for taking over?
People have very short memories and very unrealistic expectations.
The current situation is desperately disappointing and frustrating, but I don't imagine there are many people looking to take us over. We aren't exactly a sleeping giant are we?
For once Smiler, I have to disagree with you on this one mate.
Its not that any of us had unrealistic expectations, but the expectations was borne out from the TS sales pitch. I believed it, and I had great expectations after the Warnock effect. I believed all he said to us back then that lessons had been learned, I believed him because of NYS. He'd delivered in the past and I believed him now when he said we had a competitive budget.
It turns out though that he is a man of straw. He can't or won't back up his rhetoric with the hard evidence
We knew we would struggle, we can accept that we are who we are, but we do feel angry at having been beguiled and taken in for mugs.
Be careful what you wish for. Who do you have in mind for taking over?
People have very short memories and very unrealistic expectations.
The current situation is desperately disappointing and frustrating, but I don't imagine there are many people looking to take us over. We aren't exactly a sleeping giant are we?
For once Smiler, I have to disagree with you on this one mate.
Its not that any of us had unrealistic expectations, but the expectations was borne out from the TS sales pitch. I believed it, and I had great expectations after the Warnock effect. I believed all he said to us back then that lessons had been learned, I believed him because of NYS. He'd delivered in the past and I believed him now when he said we had a competitive budget.
It turns out though that he is a man of straw. He can't or won't back up his rhetoric with the hard evidence
We knew we would struggle, we can accept that we are who we are, but we do feel angry at having been beguiled and taken in for mugs.
I have been critical of TS myself Towdlad for overstating our potential and targets. It annoyed me when recently Paul Douglas said that we were 'always up against it' even if we got everything right. That wasn't what his boss was saying in July. But like Sickly I don't think TS had bad intentions. Maybe he was naïve, maybe emboldened by the Warnock miracle or maybe he is just used to getting what he wants. I don't know. But I think he wants to do the best he can for us and we are still in a far better place than when he took us on.
I am not sure TS has done this on purpose I would like to believe he is as disappointed as the rest of us.
Sickly, see what Towd wrote, see whats underlying in many more posts on here, its not just me. Im not happy about taking "a sabbatical" but im not happy about my club being taken on a ride by a man i think is taking "my club" down the tubes whilst publishing chest beating Bo!!oxs to sell season tickets in order to support a mission he has lost sight of in order to further other projects.
Iwill not, WILL NOT, continue to support this level of investment at what ever level despite the quotes from above when seeing by my own eyes the actual level of investment being made in the club.
I for one have cast away my Wembly and new stadium glasses and am begining to see the true level at which our saviour chairman is willing to play.
League 1 mid table i do not mind but i will no longer take the lies and bull being put out bt RUFC's chair every season ticket renewal period.
Do you really believe that TS is doing this deliberately? I am not saying he has not dropped a huge clanger and things need to change, but without the man our club would probably be in the nonleague.
Do you really believe that TS is doing this deliberately? I am not saying he has not dropped a huge clanger and things need to change, but without the man our club would probably be in the nonleague.
Sickly,
No I do not belive T.S is doing this deliberatlely. I think he has been caught in a whirlwind of succsess, made some money, told some exagerated expecataions over the good time promotions and been found out. He, on his own cannot support the press releases he has made. If he stated 3 years ago, we'll have a go on our budget but i cant promise, i would have taken that. He didnt, for 3 years we have had a "competitive budget", with whome?? We will" make progress" ?? to where L1? "we will be top ten" - of what league. Premiership in 3 years ? - does he mean Northern Premiership.
I have no issues with "My" club, not Tony Stewarts being relegated out of this big money league. My issue is the bull**** we have been fed over the last 3 years n he continued bull**** that is now being spewed in order to generate season ticket sales.
I have to say I'm not calling for TS to resign, but I am angry and feel betrayed and humiliated at being taken in.
I can even take relegation, but I think that most would appreciate an honest perspective of our financial ability to compete on a level playing field. If we can't, thats fine, we all expect that anyway, so tell it like it is. But to be told that we have a good budget and that we're gunna do this and we're gunna do that and then we're given quite the opposite, then I don't think the Chairmen and his acolytes can grumble when the peasants are revolting.
I think next year will be the big test with regards to how serious the club is for the future. I feel we were not ready when we went up and Tony and many of us got carried away with all the hype.
what an insane statement, TS hasn't done anything wrong he is a great chairman and we should be very grateful for what he has done for us and our club. We have had a few outstanding seasons and it is our turn to have a bad one, yes this season is awful but grow up and engage your brain rather than post such garbage as this.
Now what I would like to know is what our plans are for the longer term future, the training ground the academy, as well as how we will plan for next season to at least have a year mid-table to playoff regions and win a few games
when SE went so did the heart of the club...the movement and potential. The evidence is at the very least coincidental with the ragged management of things on and off the pitch since
It seems that the financial strain was too much but as others have rightly pointed out TS continued his naive pronouncements.
I wont overstate the importance of a manager but I wont understate it too.
The obvious thing to me is the utter lack of direction and it seems to me that TS has lost the potential energy he had successfully got going. Perhaps for that reason alone we wont be going in the right direction until a very good and self motivated manager can be found.
If we had anything like a competitive budget we would not have seen the complete decline we have witnessed. Utter fantasy.
Now, the club has to deal not only with relegation but a set of intelligent fans who feel betrayed
Well said ian. Its almost as though his 'raison d'etre' has been to make sure NYS pays, hence his constant big sell; extending the capacity, competitive budget, tried and tested manger et al, keep the fans happy, interested and spending.
Its almost as though the footballing side was actually secondary to him, which with a bit of luck would take care of its self. It can't and it didn't.
Perhaps thats why the training ground/facilities we hear do much of, seems to have been way down the list of priorities; no money in it, just another expense.
