WTF? No wonder players don't want to come here with f@cking idiots like you moaning gits slagging them off before they even get through the door. Get a life, grow up and stop moaning. Jesus wept. Give the guys a chance FFS. You don't deserve a team to follow.
With all the doom and gloom and thunderclouds floating over your heads every day you should start selling umbrellas to other whinging morons out the front of your house. You would probably make a fortune
While I find your message strong Aussie and I respect Brad etc i do feel that people are overreacting and need to look at this in perspective. Would we prefer admin and playing in Sheffield? Of cause not, yes it has been a disappointing season and all is not roses but come on guys, we will survive and eventually thrive.
I understand emotions are high and strained at the moment. I also believe the club are trying to rectify their mistakes. They too are learning and going through frustrations and mistakes of their own. I understand too that fans are spending hard earned cash to watch their team and have been frustrated by the managers and players, etc.
What I can't accept is when I come on here or MM to read news and info about the club i have loved and supported for over 52 years all i mostly see is whinging and whining and *****ing about anything and everything. If the supporters put that much effort into cheering the team on the noise at NYS would be deafening.
Slagging TS and everything else at the club off is not constructive. Say it once if you want to get it off your chest, but don't go on and on incessantly about it. Obsessions become boring to others very quickly.
I hate hearing about morons hurling vitriolic abuse at players and managers at games. That is disgusting behaviour.
And it sickens me to hear people slagging off players before they get here or before they play in particular. Slagging players off will hardly make them want to put a shift in. Encouragement and support would achieve much more.
I would kill for the opportunity to see my team live at NYS but due to health reasons it will never happen. I have lived here for 52 years and can only listen on Millers Player and watch highlights of every match or watch the odd live stream on the internet. I love listening to constructive and informative comments, but reading stupid comments about players and managers and people like Warne, who is doing is best with his hands tied behind his back just does my head in. For what it is worth, I think we could do a lot worse than make sure he has the job for the next 3 years. He has RUFC running through his veins. He has identified our problems with lack of height and strength and power. He has tried to provide competition for places in each position. He has improved the performances on the pitch somewhat and increased the workrate. People refer disparagingly to him as "only the fitness coach", yet he has achieved much better results than AS and KJ with the same group of players. Give the guy a break and see what he can do with the new players he has brought in.
Would just like to see posters on her like Brad and others of his ilk be a bit more supportive and constructive, instead of spraying their negativity over everything.
To all of the new players .....Welcome to NYS and RUFC. I sincerely hope you will try your hardest and wear the shirt with pride. Give us 100% effort and enjoy your time here and hopefully you can help us get another miracle, or at least help us to bounce back up quickly if the worst happens. Thanks for wanting to be here and having the courage to give it a go.
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Oh please.....
A relatively new happy slapper this time from 10,000 miles away. Well Aussie ,if you'd have had to suffer the embarrassing dirge for the last five months, you might have a different opinion. I actually spend my money so I'm sorry if my opinion differs to yours but I & most others are having to observe this unfolding disaster at close quarters & not over there in the sun (bit jealous if I'm honest).
Not a happy slapper. I have my concerns too but I don't plaster them over every post. Just because you spend your money to go to the matches it doesn't make you any more of a supporter, so maybe its better get off your high horse and support your club and think yourself LUCKY to be able to go and see your club. Others like myself aren't as fortunate. Health and cost and distance make it impossible for me to ever see my team live at NYS. So don't take it for granted and learn to be appreciative of what you have. If our situations were reversed you might be more understanding if you knew you would NEVER be able to go to a match again. Last match I saw was Southampton or Leeds at Millmoor 52 years ago. 8 years old. Went to matches with my dad for 3 years before moving to Australia.
And don't worry, its not as great as it looks over here. I used to think so, but its not the lucky country anymore. I would love to get out of here and live in Indonesia. Had a gutsfull here if am being honest. Hopefully in next year or two it will happen. Warmer climate in Indo will be much better for the arthritis.
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Maybe it was rose colored glasses but when I was over there i was expecting much worse. It wasn't great at times but the games I saw, Wednesday we were robbed and should have had a draw. Wigan we got a bit lucky at the end but fought hard. Burton played badly but poor finishing resulted in the loss we had more than enough chances to win that game. Oxford awful first half but second half at 1-1 we hit the post and looked likely, poor defending for their second goal. Its not as if we were getting battered out of sight, clearly defensive frailties but I have seen far worse teams wearing the shirt.
Regardless of mistakes made by TS and co (paticulary the appointment of Stubbs) I felt most of the players were trying hard, including the maligned Fisher. Some of the abuse aimed at players by some of the fans was unfair. People behind me abusing Ward at the Oxford game, really?? Overallima optimistic andI have accepted the inevitable it has been coming for two years. Funniest memory was watching Miller Bear wind up the Wigan keeper thought it was going to end in a brawl. Fancy letting a giant bear wind you up, yeesh.
Glad you managed to get there sickly child. Would have been a great experience, I would love the chance to go to NYS, but no way it can happen. That's life.
Lol about Miller Bear. Would have been hilarious.
At the end of the day its only a game. There will always be joy and tears. To appreciate the good we have to endure the bad. As frustrating as this season has been, we will still have a team next year and many years after, I hope. The nature of the game has changed and with emergency loans been scrapped it has caused agents and clubs to be more cagey and prices and wages to rise. Now its the "take it or leave it" approach that will prevail. Clubs can't afford to stuff up because they are stuck with mistakes for half the season till the next window. I hope the powers that be will rescind that stupid decision before it kills the Championship completely. It was hard enough to compete in this division before, for the smaller clubs. Now its almost impossible. Mistakes in recruitment and injuries to players are debilitating for clubs now. Who could have foreseen the problems we have had with injuries, managers and some of the poor signings Stubbs made? Not been able to get players in to replace them has killed any chance we had this season.
Aussie, I am genuinely sorry about your health issues & I'm sure if you had the health & strength you'd have been over to NYS to suffer with the rest of us but unlike yourself, I don't find that keeping your concerns to yourself is at all useful. After all, this is a forum in which supporters are encouraged to air their views rather than bottle them up. As you have mentioned I pay my money & reserve the right to air said views, however negative. If you paid £23 (or the equivelant in AUSD) for some form of entertainment & got a regular half arsed performance with some of the protagonists seeming not to either care or put any effort in, you may be a trifle miffed.
Brad I have been in the same situation here. I supported an Aussie Rules team since the year I migrated to Australia. Its name was Central Districts Football Club, aka the Bulldogs. I witnessed many humiliations from the year after they first became a league club in 1964 (I only arrived in 1965). Most weeks we got flogged. Eventually we started to make odd appearances in the finals, but lost most through inexperience and lesser calibre players. I still went every week and suffered like everyone of the other faithful. That was until the year 2000 when Centrals won its very first premiership. It played in an SANFL Record 12 consecutive grand finals (2000-2011) which is a remarkable achievement. 35,000 football fans watched Centrals and Norwood play in our last winning grand final in 2010. So far Centrals has won nine SANFL grand finals (2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010) and has lost five (1995, 1996, 2002, 2006 and 2011). Since 2011 we have slumped back to mid table anonymity.
I spent my hard earned here supporting my team as well as my local football (soccer) club through thick and thin. Many ups and downs and disappointments. Sure, I grizzled and whinged on occasion, too. But the main difference with me is I never did it on a message board or in places where players might hear. I never abused players or managers at game venues and I never booed my team and I never wrote players off or complained about them before they had time to arrive and settle in and play a few games. Players are all different and some will play much better at certain clubs in certain environments than others. Some will respond differently to some managers than others. To write them off and insult them before they have arrived and kicked a ball is just bang out of order, for me, and achieves nothing at all. I have always been an optimist rather than a pessimist. That, Brad, is a CHOICE we all have. I chose optimism.
Favourite quote: "Make no mistake between my personality and my attitude. My personality is who I am. My attitude depends on who YOU are"
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You will always get negative people, people. Who always look for the bad side but never see the good. Supporters who won't see the 6-700000 we spent but will whinge about th 2000000 we haven't . These same supporters whant us to spend millions and pay 10's of thousands in wages but don't want there season ticket to increase in price. They moan about no information then say why didn't we keep it secret. You can. Never win. All they do is moan moan moan. It's just. Their nature. Good job these don't run their own buissness it would be down befor it started. Yes I know you work hard ,yes you pay you £15 pound or whatever but for gods sake be POSATIVE stop whinging we are inthe championship. It may be years until we are here again so have a reality check and just enjoy the football. The garden is far from rosy but stop running my team into the ground
Pleased to be a miller.
You will always get negative people, people. Who always look for the bad side but never see the good. Supporters who won't see the 6-700000 we spent but will whinge about th 2000000 we haven't . These same supporters whant us to spend millions and pay 10's of thousands in wages but don't want there season ticket to increase in price. They moan about no information then say why didn't we keep it secret. You can. Never win. All they do is moan moan moan. It's just. Their nature. Good job these don't run their own buissness it would be down befor it started. Yes I know you work hard ,yes you pay you £15 pound or whatever but for gods sake be POSATIVE stop whinging we are inthe championship. It may be years until we are here again so have a reality check and just enjoy the football. The garden is far from rosy but stop running my team into the ground Pleased to be a miller.
I do think we should give new players a chance to have a clean slate when they play for us and judge them on their performance n a millers shirt
i have asked a city fan and another source about this player ekstrand and they have said he is a good player. plus i remember him playing against us in the watford side when they got promoted kept our strikers quiet.
the reason he didnt have so many games was due for legality sake shall we say differences of opinion with the manager allegedley
our shortfall has been our colander defence. build from the back stop the goals and see if we get some more points
i know its a long shot but we never know
up the millers
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The original point was that yet again we have brought in a player who has very recently had an injury and has something like 2 games under his belt. I don't want to we us spendin multi millions on players and we already have a waste of a £10K wage at the club. I am sick of the promise of "big budget" bids only to see us signing injured free agents !!!
The main point for me we is we have signed a player that actually wants to come here and play for us. We can have a look and see what he is like. If he turns out ok we can give him a contract at end of season. If he doesn't work out we can get rid. Not going to cost as much between now and season's end.
People need to settle down and put brain into motion before jerking the knee.
It has been a hard job attracting players after the massive clearouts we have had forced upon us by the shi@e signings, etc by sh@te managers blowing our budgets consistently for players that really didn't want to be here like JFC and sicknotes and geriatrics stealing a wage. With the state we are in we are lucky to get anyone who wants to come here and try to contribute to our cause. That gives me hope they are up for a fight.
A bit more patience with new signings would help. There is no point in destroying them before they even kick a ball. We are in a mess. We need help. These guys have had the guts to come here to get a game and try to help. Give them a chance ffs instead of throwing the toys out of the pram.
In case you hadn't noticed the window was shut and this guy actually cancelled his contract with the club that was already paying him a wage because he wants to play and to take up Warne's challenge. In my opinion that indicates he has a decent attitude and doesn't want to sit doing nothing and stealing a wage, unlike some of our lot recently.
-- Edited by Aussie Miller on Friday 3rd of February 2017 08:16:02 AM
Sorry to bang on about it, but I think again the club have shot themselves in the foot again with poor communication.
I suspect that Brad's frustration is borne in part of the fact that we were not quite promised but led to believe that there would be younger, hungry players coming through the door on permanent signings. We have one of those - Purrington - in addition to two untried youngsters on loan from other Championship clubs where they can't get a game, and now Ekstrand with his recent history. Two of those three not currently fit to play. O'Donnell was a good signing. But not for the first time the club has hinted at one thing and delivered something different.
I think we are all realistic about the challenge of being in the Championship, and we are all grateful to be in existence at any level. I still pinch myself every time I walk up the steps to take my seat and turn round to see the stadium. I am one of those that enjoys seeing us play no matter what the result.
I just don't know why Tony Stewart - legend that he is - felt that he needed to talk up our chances of surging up the Championship towards the top league when we were just not equipped to do it (see Paul Douglas's comments about finance on the Joe Cawthorne thread). He built over-expectation into the picture and has torn up a succession of long term plans to chase a goal that was perhaps more illusion than reality.
Tony is a very successful businessman. He will know about business planning and the importance of having SMART objectives - Strategic, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic and Time-based. I don't know why that wouldn't apply to football as it does to any other business, and I think that in its eagerness to be seen to be trying to deliver what it thinks the supporters want, with hindsight the statements put out by the club haven't been particularly smart in any sense of the word.
Did anyone seriously believe we could have been promotion contenders, this is our premiership and barring massive investment it always will be. I am happy with that. We need to regroup and prepare for next year, there is no reason to think that we cant compete for promotion next year. For div one we will be an attractive option for players.
