I think it's too late for us.

There was ample warning in the skies.

The budget is gone
The window is closed
We will be bottom of the league at Christmas

The January sales!
Well be last in the queue
As burton max out their credit cards on basement bargains at the till.

Tony is stuck between a rock and a roll.
He loves ballads though I've heard.

He won't listen to you-to me, or the board, and the chuckle brothers aren't on the BBC anymore. He will muse over a whiskey and watch old tapes of Broadway as that famous ref from Rotherham joins in with 'I did it my Way'.

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I'm very sorry to hear that.

Despite getting the blind backing from the Hobos Board, and an increased players budget they could ill afford, he went about signing numerous players - none of them really shone or came close to the prophesies of Stubbs. Most stayed in the U20s or on the bench and in the end Stubbs resorted to getting a couple of emergency part-season loans from their kindred bretheren, Celtic. Liam Henderson & Stokesey did a job but they could never turn around the inadequecies for the rest of the squad. Most would argue Stokes didn't do much (didn't score many at all) but he did set others up.
Stubbs may be a nice person, he might have been an OK club player but he cannot get a team to gel, to add up to more than the sum parts and he is certainly clueless when it comes to knowing his strongest team/formation/tactics. The only thing he is undesputed World Champion is saying Ehm and talking utter nonesense to the press. For some reason they all lap it up and from the sounds of it so does your owners.

I wish you all well and hope you find someone decent to turn your fortunes around this season

They wouldn't be top if we had beaten them.

In terms of Stubbs I have seen nothing about him that impresses me. In terms of personality, skill set, motivational quality and tactical prowess I see 0 degrees Kelvin in fact I think the new name for absolute zero should be Alan Stubbs.

Now I don't mind losing football matches, or even relegation for that matter. What I do mind is how we do it. Love him or hate him when we lost under Evans you felt as if we shared the pain. With this guy I just feel contempt.

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For all you still supporting Stubbs, please see his latest media gaffe.

Secret to clean sheets? "Don't play one, two & three in league in last three games," says #rufc boss AS.

What the hell is that all about? Does that mean he's resigned to losing before we even step over the white line? If the manager is coming out with comments like that in public, then what effect is that having on his players. Shocking negativity. Oh and by the way, what was the excuse when we played the bottom clubs and we conceded, or the 5 we shipped against a league two side?

I'm absolutely livid with this, get shut Tony! Get him in the office first thing Monday morning and do the right thing. Anyone would be an improvement on Stubbs.

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 Agreed, disgraceful comment for a football manager to make.

I'd have sacked him after Morecambe. The writing was already on the wall

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I wouldn't wait 4 games. I'd sack him now.

Then again, I would have sacked him 4 games ago when it was clear for all to see that he was totally clueless.

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I'd be happy enough if he went now too, but after the next 4 games, against teams we have to take points off if we are to hold any chance... if we don't pick up points in those, he has no excuses left.

He's thinks we are improving, and he thinks we couldn't expect to get any points from the 'top three' in our last three games. 4 more games without picking up 4 to 6 points and all his reasoning is shot and I'd be very very surprised if TS doesn't step in.

So he has that long I reckon, and I'd love it to turn around and see us start winning, none of us can see it happening though. For the record, I've nothing against Stubbs, I don't think any of us do - we are Millers, just that.

Tony most of us Millers are hurting, the kind of hurt we have not felt since the dark days of Millmoor and Don Valley, please, please, please act NOW

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I am afraid the longer TS leaves it then the worse it will be. It will get to the stage where the fans will not attend or even take to voicing their opinions. "PURSHOUSE OUT" still sits in my ear. "BOOTH OUT" another. Plus ones directed at past managers (Scott, Begarra etc). Do you really want to go down that route Tony.

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 This is nowhere near the cir***stances of those dark days Rotherbird. 

 

We have all we need for a vibrant successful club . Indeed we are pretty vibrant and successful but for this awful start.

 

If and when it's up to the fans to keep on keeping in. 

The 1st, 2nd, 3rd comment is indeed, yet another PR disaster from Stubbs. I've had high level coaches mention a couple of times this weekend about 'luck' and 'mistakes'. It seems to me in the coaching world, luck and individual errors are the product of bad coaching. Lets not forget these are highly skilled, highly conditioned individuals that have been used to resources and coaching conditions that don't appear in our real world.

A good manager aligns his staff to work best in the market they operate, using the skills they bring to the team to complement each other - in any profession. That's how the sum of parts becomes greater to over achieve. I would like to see statistical analysis of how the assumption that improvements are being made, because the view of one person, is not acceptable or believable.

He's not the first to fail in trying to acquire more akin Championship players. So did Redfearn, and so did RM in the season we were relegated and look how that ended up. Indeed we got here, not by footballing teams to death but bludgeoning teams to death. In my lifetime, there's only one squad I can remember were better 'footballing' and that was when we won Div4 - 1 team, one season in 30+ years.

In my eyes Stubbs has ripped the identity of the club out, and granted this hasn't been helped by the awful lack of long term planning by Evans, the debacle of Redfearn and the dangle tactics of Warnock - but he and those above him have to shoulder the blame. Ultimately it will be Stubbs that comes off worst, but the problems of our club start higher up than that and until that is addressed with the right funding, right personnel and resources we will never ever be a Championship club, and as for a sustainable one - pink fluffy unicorns riding on rainbows springs to mind.