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ChesterGreenMiller
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In light of recent Johnny Veal tweet discovering Donny fans chanting anti Rotherham songs, which football clubs don't you like ranked in order (top 5) plus which club do you have an irrational hatred of and why?

 

For me....

 

1) Wednesday - It's not even the Rotherham Owls thing, as that happens at most big city clubs. I'm sure Oldham lose fans to City, Bolton to Man United etc. It's the attitude. They're not even in the biggest six clubs in the league certainly given current stature yet they are the self-named "massive" and coin phrases like "we're all Wednesday aren't we?" and their arrogant attitude in the build up to the game and the immature bitterness afterwards just shows they have the strangest mix of oddball, geeky yet pretend thuggish fanbase going. The defeat against them at our place last season is the most angry and shell-shocked I've ever felt at a football match, even more so than losing to Dagenham or Orient in the playoffs (semis obviously for the latter). Hope they don't get out the division, as the longer they are kept at arms length, the longer the crowds will dwindle, like they did when they were getting 16,000 in League 1 when doing poorly. Massive indeed.

2) Chezzy - I know for a fact they hate being referred to as that, so that makes me all the more likely to do it. I've never known a fanbase as backwards, bitter and green-eyed as them. The only thing they ever clinged onto was their record against us, and since that went out the window when we dropped back to the lower leagues (because that's where these odd woolybacks are always dwelling), they spite bile and are always awaiting our ridicule at every opportunity. They will genuinely hate it if we stay up. It probably means more to them than themselves staying in League 1.

3) Blades - whilst Wednesday fans create a false sense of a "love in" between us and the Blades, they are second only to their city sisters in terms of patronising idiots. Indeed I believe the term 'toytown' was first coined by a Blades fan (which makes a change as they are unoriginal song stealing prats) and as a 17 year old having arrived back the same morning from Lanzarote for a Friday night game at Millmoor vs them (managed by our man Neil Warnock), we drew 1-1 and as I queued to get into Elliott's that evening, I was thumped by a bloke 15+ years my senior for no reason at all, so can only assume he was bitter that the toytowners didn't roll over and have their bellies tickled. Oh, and last season when they beat us 1-0 at their place, they played the typically boring "you're bound to hammer us card, we've got our youth team out" then rammed it down our throats and celebrated like they'd won the World Cup despite having nothing to play for when they scored. Hope they remain stagnating in League 1 for a long time.

4) Aldershot - playing them in the playoffs, having all and sundry chucked at us by 16-19 year old chavs across the terrace when Alfie scored, and just generally the first time I'd been introduced at any sort of scale to the cringeworth 'ultra' culture that seems now to have infested our terraces. I wasn't sad to be sending them back out of the football league. I was bloody delighted.

5) Gillingham -  I don't want to put that we never win there as a reason, partly because Hitch**** made sure it isn't true and partly because that isn't reason enough. Or the fact that their temporary uncovered stand has been temporary for 10 years. Or the fact that it was daylight robbery on December 8th in League 2. But every Gillingham side I have ever watched epitomises why England are so far behind other nations with their kick and rush anti-football and thuggish leave the boot in tactics. Hessenthaler was player and manager there for years and Scally is their Chairman. It is surrounded by medway towns where the chav culture was invented. Even their kits os boring. Need I go on?

 

Honourable mentions to Donny (for hating us so much), Millwall (for trying to be hard men in northern towns and running a mile from most bigger clubs that more than match them) and Notts County and Grimsby for being very anti Yorkshire.

And irrationally? Wycombe. Always beat us, always involved in dour 1-0 and 0-0 games and fans claiming they live in 'leafy Buckinghamshire'. Never been a football place.



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Have to say I lived and worked in the Medway towns (Gillingham, Maidstone Gravesend etc), and the chavs were/are from Chatham. However I loved my time down there but I have to say I HATE GILLINGHAM footie club.

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Living away for so long I've lost the local rivalry bit, but here goes

1. Derby - even more of a case of the massiveitus than our lovely S6 neighbours. Seen us play all 4 games thus far and their fans are so far up their own backsides they should wear brown shirts and not spoil the white. Can't stand them

2. Wednesday for the same reasons but I don't think they're as bad as Derby if you can believe that. The egg is always on their face as they don't really have anything to base their massiveness on anymore. Funny that a lot of the S6 clan are already coming round to the very strange thinking of purposefully not getting promotion to build for a better more long term strategy in the PL. No coincidence then that thinking coincided with a blip in form including losing to us. Didn't hurt for Bournemouth though did it and their star striker got crocked in the 1st few weeks of the season.

3. Arsenal - 1 of 2 clubs here that have probably done the most damage to this country's young player prospects over the life of the PL. Ok in recent times they've brought in young english players, but they aren't getting game time are they?

4. Man City - same reason as above, and how their supporters can swallow the fact they're an english club by name and geography only in the hell bent hunt for success is horrible. I wouldn't want any part of that

5. Peterborough United, having had love interests there in my younger days for 4yrs I saw what these 1 eyed males are like, and unfortunately it finds its way onto the terraces. They think they're the '300' - its in their genes to be utter wannabe ****ney nobs - but they just come across as glorifying wife beating dicks. A night out in P'boro is a lessen on itself - although might have changed in the last 15 years I was part of that disgusting scene

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1. Man City - One of many clubs who have simply bought success but I just can't get along with Man City. Probably because I loved watching Man Utd under Fergie where their philosophy was you score 3 and we'll score 4.

2. Sheffield Wednesday - well, they're massive aren't they?

3. MK Dons - no history and a ridiculous stadium

4. Millwall - Hooligans

5. Derby - used to quite like them until their managers antics when they were 3-0 up. Karma is a beautiful thing.

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Wednesday- just cant abide them.
Leeds horrible fans and horrible club.
Millwall ditto.
Man Utd up themselves
Real Madrid liven near Barcelona and just got to understand a little of the hatred from the Franco years.

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Wednesday

Millwall

MK Dons

Port Vale

Swansea

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We all have rivals, but there are a few that I dislike (hates, too strong a word) more than others.

1. Chesterfield: They loathe us and I suspect that's its something of an inferiority thing with their fans. Okay, they were our bogey of all bogey sides for years and that probably diluted their hatred of us. Now that particular hoodoo has ended, they simply detest us due, I suspect, to a real jealousy that we have had two spells in the second tier of the FL and they continue to struggle along in the lower reaches. Would love to see them relegated to the fourth tier this term, a real possibility. A small town in Derbyshire in the shadow of a much bigger Yorkshire!

2. Doncaster Rovers: Never really gave them much thought for several years as we always seemed to beat them and they were usually in a lower league than us. Living in a part of North Lincs, adjacent to the town, I now realise just how much they actually dislike us, again, I suspect as a result of a massive inferiority complex. After a year or two when they briefly played in a higher league than us, they are back where they belong and relegation looks a certainty! Good riddance! And I also really dislike their hooped shirts.

3. Arsenal: A club so far removed from the original concept of football being a working class game. They appear to be supported, and I use the term loosely, by groups of occasional middle class and upper class people who spend huge amounts on tickets to watch foreign journeymen squeezing out a final big pay packet. More akin to a Limited Company than a true football club. Horrible club!

4. Manchester City: Foreign owned and on the pitch populated with foreign overhyped individuals with little or no serious allegiance to the club. Their policy of "Let's spend, spend , spend on every foreign player, and even the odd English one (Rahim Sterling) ever to be hyped up by the media" looks doomed to failure....AGAIN! Their huge wage bills are crippling the game as we know it. If these mega rich owners pull out, I wonder if they'd survive?

5. M K Dons: Nothing against the area but even after all this time, I just cannot accept the fact that someone can simply uproot a club and move it elsewhere. They have little or no fanbase and most residents of the town, having moved there from elsewhere, support other clubs.
Their stadium is far too big for them and the atmosphere is non existent.

Add to that list Grimsby Town due to their hatred of all things Yorkshire, Stoke City and Millwall due to their hooligan fans, West Brom, for having that loathsome McClean in their ranks and West Ham for their constant banging on about how they play the game in "a beautiful way" cos that's what the media says.

On the positive side, I quite like Barnsley, Portsmouth, Leyton Orient, Bradford City and Leicester.



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I cant honestly think of five!

Millwall - easy choice

Wednesday - obviously


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1) sheffields wednesday as i grew up their and had to cope with been amiller in a school of owls

2) sheffield united cos it one of those reason you hate a team cos you do plus its in sheffield

3) Leeds hate these with a passion cos its leeds and i hate leeds if i was a millionaire i would buy their debt and make them bust but refuse to sell i would flatten the ground melt the statue down for trinkets and copyright every form of leeds as a football club

4) arsenal need i say more who are owned by someone who puts corporate profit before trophies and wenger

5) chesterfield because they have this irrational hated of us and seem to think having a twisted spire makes them famous maybe thats why they are twisted green with envy at our success  and play in a stadium oddly called pro ac whenit should be called prozac



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1. Don't like watching Neccastle for some reason and they were a bit arrogant when we played em each time.

2. Arsenal, because rich ****s support them.

3. Everyone else.

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Towdlad wrote:

Wednesday

Millwall

MK Dons

Port Vale

Swansea

 

 

Sorry didn't give my reasons:-

Wednesday: Local rivals and always good to get one over them, always been pretty ambivalent towards them, until we played them at home during the season we lost old 2nd div status during Emlyns reign, we had a group of middle aged Wednesdayites stood in front of us who were mouthy and generally being obnoxious. When they scored (they beat us btw) one of the guys turned and almost spat venom in my face and screaming at me "We're sendin' yor dahn". I pointed out that it took more than one defeat to relegate a team at which he threatened to "smack' me , being a handy 24 year old back then and not used to being singled out I returned with the Michael Caine line "Your a big mouth and out of shape," etc etc. A scuffle broke out, all this in front of the Directors box at Millmoor, I managed to land him a good un before the short melee was broken up. I was so angry i wanted strangle the rat. Henceforth Wednesday....hate em

Millwall: We drew at Millmoor in a cup game 1-1, their goal coming in the last 5 mins or so. Scored by the big centre forward Barry Kitchen who should have been sent off. The replay was the following Tue night at the Den. I have never been so afraid at a football match in my life, but despite the fear I eventually had to yell out "Come on Rotherham". Big mistake. Now this was in the Main Stand which as a rule was usually the safest place to be at away games in those days. But we were assailed by verbal threats of violence and lighted fags thrown at us etc, but the worst was having children with their fathers yelling at us "Fak orf Rovrum. Fak orf" The grinning parent having that "Thats my boy expression" on their face. We lost the game 2-0.

MK Dons: Largely for the same reasons many others have stated

Port Vale: Again a team I cared nothing for one way or the other until/after we signed Pope. He took the wage but seemed uninterested in earning it, eventually ended up at Port Vale his home club I believe and if memory serves correct was very uncomplementary against the Millers and our fans. Possibly not fair to judge the club by this one player, but thats the way it is.

Swansea: I was at Millmoor stood in the Tivoli End with my son, my brother and his two kids when we heard banging coming from the roof. Looking up we saw bits of corrugated roofing falling on those below. Looking toward Millmoor Lane side we saw bits of bricks, stones and other rubble being thrown up and over onto the crowd. People were running to take cover and I saw one lad get hit with a fairly large piece and he hit the ground seemingly badly hurt, one or two were cowering behind the wall and a lad picking up the stones and throwing them back. the kids were terrified. that was the occasion one of their fans was killed, crushed by a police horse. Shocking behaviour and they tried to blame the Rotherham fans for the riot.

My 5 and the reasons



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No particular order. 1. Millwall - self explanatory. They are right, no one likes them and with good reason. 2. MK Dons - should disappear as quickly as they appeared. 3. Liverpool - half my school supported them because they were miles better than anyone else during my school days. Glory hunters. Living on past glories now but still feel 'entitled'. 4. Blackpool. Memories of getting p**s wet through on an open terrace in the late eighties watching eleven millers pinch money while losing 3-0 after I made a round trip from Leicester on the train to watch, changing at Birmingham New Street, Crewe and Preston. 5. Port Vale - in my experience for some reason one of the most miserable, bitter, unfriendly, small minded sets of fans around and a terrible ground to visit.

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Cheers for the detaile reply, lads. Very interesting reading those and the views. Some are similar to the ones I Stated, some completely understandable and some surprising.

PS Towdlad, remember the Swansea incident well. Unfortunately it resulted in disastrous consequences. No-one will know other than those around his company if Terry Coles was involved or not (and no point going through it and disrespecting the deceased) but there's no doubt in my mind that the Swansea fans started the trouble. I saw it all over town at about 1.30. They were out for a scrap that day and they caused one.

Can't say I've ever seen much of it with Swansea since, home or away. Unfortunately big games bring out the idiot element (remember us at Stoke in the cup under Robins?) but the Welsh really do not like the English and there's no dressing it down.

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Yes it was an awful day. I agree I saw it everywhere too. No doubt at all they came with huge aggression to that match. The atmosphere outside was electric and so easy to get sucked into. I can't remember seeing more fights before a game and bad injuries. I went in the millMoor and tivoli and it was (as a younger man) so frightening it was kinda uplifting , however some of the racism was absolutely vile and being of Welsh background found it mind numbing too.

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I had just spent the year in West Africa and was due to arrive back in London that morning. Planes were delayed and was really peed off as there was no way I was going to make it and my brother had got me a ticket. I had been following them all season on the world service and I think we clinched promotion at Hartlepool and went to Peterborough with half a team and tonked them. Remember staying at a mates in London and hearing that the kick off had been delayed due to trouble. When I heard the details I was glad I missed it.

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1 Mk Dons for crimes against football and the fact they basicly formed a new club without starting from the very bottom.

2 Celtic any club can condone the songs its fans sing about killing british soldiers should be banned into obscurity(plus my family are all Rangers fans).

3 Gillingham the only club that no other club voted as a rival in the whole league and a horrible place to get to.

4 Wednesday Big headed fans and probably 25% of their support come from Rotherham and slag us off.

5 Blades for same reason as above apart from more percentage

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1; Wednesday, obviously, arrogant big headed idiots that despite not being in the PL for around 20 years, still think they're massive.....WAWAW (B*****KS!!!)
2; Leeds, for EXACTLY the same reason, if anything, their fans are even more obnoxious!!
3; Millwall, Sarf London neandethals!!
4; Doncaster; League two bound jealous p***ks who still sing songs about hating us even though we don't give a damn about them, in fact it's us & our position they aspire to.
5; Manchester United; not so much a club but more a multi national corporation with over half their fan base either in the south east of England, or abroad.

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